Fedex Testing

[goflyme]

What type of prep have people been doing for the Fedex testing? I've been trying to learn these Syllogisms but have had an uphill battle. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.

 

[P3tarbaby]

It's been 2 years but I presume the tests are still the same. I googled syllogisms and found a couple of college sites helpful but I don't think anyone really understands them. I picked up a Barrons Science Study Dictionary at Barnes and Nobel and a coupel GRE/ACT test prep books from a used bookstore for the science and english stuff. Then used the info on aviationinterviews.com to give me an idea of what to focus on. This seemed to work for me. Nobody seems to know for sure what weight the tests have. Don't blow them off but don't spend all your time worrying about them either. Hope this helps.

 

[Goose17]

it's been discussed before, but...

I honestly think the test don't count for much. I, as well as most, thought I totally bombed all the tests. When they tell you not to guess, only answering the questions you are certain about, I only answered a few. My opinion is the tests can be a "tool" used for a reason why you didn't pass the interview process if you don't quite fit the FedEx mold (for a double negative).

If you pass the tests, you must be a rocket surgeon!
Spend your time worrying about your stories (your background).

Goose17

 

[PurpleTail]

I'll second that the tests really don't count for much. Remember that the testing is the very last thing you do after two days of extreme stress (that later seemed a lot of fretting for nothing). So no matter how hard you study you'll be completely mentally drained by testing time.

Get a couple right, NOT to many, and you'll fit the bell curve profile. Score to high or low and you'll raise a few eyebrows. I also think it is a scapegoat for the company if the face to face goes bad.

Relax, they are more interested in what kind of person you are and if they could sit in the cockpit with on a week long pairing.

 

[FN FAL]

What type of prep have people been doing for the Fedex testing? I've been trying to learn these Syllogisms but have had an uphill battle. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.

They do testing with Syllogisms? I just got done with a PHL 251 course...man I hated syllogisms.

If P, then Q.
Not Q.
Therefore not P.

If P, then Q.
Not P.
Therefore, not Q.

Which is denies the consequent and which denies the antecedent?

This is the kind of syllogism testing they do at FedEx?

 

[NightFlyer]

All of the FedEx manuals are written in the syllogism format so you'll have know how to read them.

Seriously, I went through the asvab, afoqt, and sat vocab study guides. That's about the best thing you can do for the testing. The main thing is to read the directions! Good luck and take care.



NightFlyer

 

[TonyC]

If you pass the tests, you must be a rocket surgeon!

Rocket surgeon? Now THERE's and interesting combination!



I believe if you could use only a single study guide, it would be the ASVAB Study guide.


As a study guide, I believe it will only sharpen skills that you already possess. You shouldn't expect to learn a great deal from the study guide. If you find that you DON'T know a great deal of the material covered, perhaps you could invest in some type of instruction or self-study in those areas.

I've HEARD that you shouldn't score too low on the tests, and you shouldn't score too high. Whether those assertions are based on aptitude (too dumb) or personality (too smart?) I don't know. I imagine they could use the scores to in some way predict suitability for training, but the other qualifications (ATP, college degree, PIC time) might be sifficient indicators alone. Maybe they're just there to introduce enough uncertainty that they can choose not to hire you without facing lawsuits, but I doubt it. The philosophy seems to be that they decide to hire you when they call you for the interview, and it's up to you to dissuade them during the interview. If you persuade them you're not FedEx material during the interview process, a simple "No Thanks" is all that's needed to insulate from legal action.

Big Picture - - if you already know what you need to know, use a study guide to brush up. If you don't already know the material, it's probably too late to learn.

 

[USNFDX]

Tests,

Pretty much mean nothing UNLESS, you A. Don't follow the directions (for example, you guess when they tell you not to!) B. You are sloppy and rush through the quantitative ones and get a bunch of them wrong. For example, there are couple sections of strings of simple math problems, and also some very simple graph reading problems. I am not exactly sure the number of problems, but I believe it was about 30 in each. It would be much better to only finish 18 of them and get them all right, then to finish all 30 and get 5 wrong.

I think I only answered 7 of the vocabulary questions. They were unbelievable! When I finaly knew a word, I was clueless on the choices......But I didn't Guess.

Also, they have been using the DC-10-10 sim lately!