Fatigue Loophole?

[rajflyboy]

Need help with your resignation letter?

Dude

Learn how to be a champion:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR_wLFJ0Eg&feature=related

"Roll Tide"

We need to negotiate for whats right. We can't lose on this fatigue deal. It is that important.

 

[CA1900]

and with the required report

"What time did you go to bed the night before?"

"When did you get up?"

"How was the sleep?"

"Any factors that affected the sleep?"



Wow... that's such a burden to fill out.

 

[rajflyboy]

"What time did you go to bed the night before?"

"When did you get up?"

"How was the sleep?"

"Any factors that affected the sleep?"



Wow... that's such a burden to fill out.

For some reason you forgot to mention the other parts of that report. At any rate it was a give away with IBB. We never had this requirement prior to 2007 and we had the same no fault fatigue policy. On top of that why the heck should a fatigue report be associated with losing a sick day? That makes no sense at all. Company won on this one.

I'm done ranting and raving about fatigue. I just hope that you people that negotiate don't go and F Bomb when you are negotiating this "Fatigue Card" stuff. That would be upsetting for the rest of us.

If you are tired then call in fatigue. If you are capable of flying the trip please go and fly the trip. Simple stuff here.

 

[HiSpeedFlyer]

Raj, take a break, you dont have to be a dick every minute of your life.....




If your are tired, call it in. Fill out the form in 5 minutes, and go to bed. Where are we losing out on the fatigue policy? Where are we caving in?

Jee golly. Where's a Stag when I need one?

 

[OPECJet]

Dude

Learn how to be a champion:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xR_wLFJ0Eg&feature=related

"Roll Tide"

We need to negotiate for whats right. We can't lose on this fatigue deal. It is that important.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill on the fatigue report. It's definitely important and has been treated as such.

As for the rest, it will be played out on the field.

 

[ultrarunner]

No group should EVER have to negotiate a 'call-in-fatigue' provision. That provision is already covered in the 'fit-to-fly' provision in the regulations.

The correct stance, IMHO, is to negotiate a 'minimum-adequate-rest' provision. Then the fatigue issue becomes MUCH less relevant.

 

[OPECJet]

You have to negotiate in pay protection or we'll have the same type stuff the airlines do. You call in fatigued at an airline, you lose money. You call in fatigued at NJA and you go to the hotel. The report waits til you're properly rested.

BTW, the reason behind the report was allegedly so they can track reasons behind fatigue calls and try to correct them. We all know they ask the wrong questions and 80% of those calls would stop if the OSU interns would put down the crack pipe, but it is what it is.

 

[rajflyboy]

Opec

you need an Alabama Education I see

 

[rajflyboy]

No group should EVER have to negotiate a 'call-in-fatigue' provision. That provision is already covered in the 'fit-to-fly' provision in the regulations.

The correct stance, IMHO, is to negotiate a 'minimum-adequate-rest' provision. Then the fatigue issue becomes MUCH less relevant.

I like your thinking here.

 

[OPECJet]

Opec

you need an Alabama Education I see

They don't teach humility in Tuscaloosa, or are you one of those who didn't go to school there?