failed writtens..?

[PropsForward]

Probably. They probably know (or think they know) what eachcertificate or rating applicant should know/understand. I've justbeen lucky enough to talk to the examiners for my CSE/CFI rides andthey flat out tell you "yep, you need to know this and that andthat"...so I guess that's good...or bad, depending on how you look atit.

But I'm sure they do the same thing for each person on the check ride,just that these particular examiners like to use the written as astarting point. Just to make sure you know now what you didn'tknow then, I guess.

-mini

Yeah, I think each one has that nugget of aviation knowledge they want to pass along, and then they have the items/issues that the FSDO wants emphasized. But the whole nut of it is that they end up developing an efficient program for each ticket that maximized the range of items checked or tested in a given period of time.

 

[PropsForward]

I gotta agree. I got a 98 on the PPL written...one question missed. And I still got grilled for 2 hours on the oral. Maybe some DEs base their oral on the written performance. Mine didn't....

It could also be another red flag or issue caught his attention. I had one PPL student that was the CFI dream student. He had studied for years prior to actually starting the flight training, and excelled at all aspects of his training. He too got a 98 on the written and I sent him for his check ride at 40.1 hrs.



Well, his check ride took better then 6 hours. He passed. In the debrief he said the examiner opened the PTS to page one and checked every item list to the last page. When I debriefed with the DPE, the DPE was pissed! He was not at all happy about me sending a student up for a check ride at 40 hrs. When I queried about the students performance he was happy and complimented his knowledge and skills, but was adamant that someone should not be sent up at the FAA minimum. I never sent another student to him.

 

[FlyLady]

It could also be another red flag or issue caught his attention. I had one PPL student that was the CFI dream student. He had studied for years prior to actually starting the flight training, and excelled at all aspects of his training. He too got a 98 on the written and I sent him for his check ride at 40.1 hrs.



Well, his check ride took better then 6 hours. He passed. In the debrief he said the examiner opened the PTS to page one and checked every item list to the last page. When I debriefed with the DPE, the DPE was pissed! He was not at all happy about me sending a student up for a check ride at 40 hrs. When I queried about the students performance he was happy and complimented his knowledge and skills, but was adamant that someone should not be sent up at the FAA minimum. I never sent another student to him.

That doesn't seem right. If the student demonstrated the knowledge and skills, then that just sounds like prejudice on the part of the DE. Some people learn quicker or study harder than others. Those students who do, shouldn't be penalized by having to train unnecessary hours. My $.02.....