Faa TCE??

[negatory]

What is a FAA TCE (Training Course Evaluator)?

 

[pilot141]

It's Training Center Evaluator.

Someone who can give checkrides in a simulator, but their checking authority is limited to the Training Center that they are certified for.

For example, a TCE at Simuflite cannot go over to FlightSafety and give a checkride.

Also, TCE's are normally limited to giving recurrent checkrides, and are not authorized to give type-rating rides or ATPs.

 

[IP076]

TCE's are not only for simulators. They can do checkrides in airplanes associated with a training center.

I'm not sure that there is an legal matter preventing a TCE from giving an ATP, its probably just whatever they were qualifed to do when they took the TCE checkride with the FAA.

I know several TCEs who are qualified to give private, commercial, and instrument checkrides in airplanes at a training center.

 

[80/20]

Typically a TCE is a designee and a check airman with rights to give type rating/ATP checks and training in sims. or airplanes for several airlines. As an example Boeing and Airbus have TCEs that will train pilots for a new customer on a new aircraft.

TCE is a relatively new FAA term. It was introduced to bridge the gap between the traditional designee program or in-house 135 or 121 check airman and the examiner program needed for PART 142. (142 is usually a center who gives type ratings and required training for airlines and corporate jet operators).

It can be confusing because a TCE can hold various levels of authorization. The most common authorizations are: PPE (Pilot Proficiency Examiner), DPE (Designated Pilot Examiner), and Check Airman which might have 61, 135 and 121 authorizations. A TCE may also be authorized for Category II and III and progressive checks. As pilot 141 explains it must be done under a 142 center and check airman work must also be approved by each airline’s POI.

 

[jimpilot]

80/20 has it right. A TCE is a Training Center Evaluator. He can have various levels of authority. 61.58 examineer, part 135 examineer, CAT II certification authority, etc. His authority is limited to activities as a center employee.

He can also have aircraft authority, although that is mostly limited to single pilot checks and things like that. With level D simulators and SOE restrictions the need for aircraft flight checks are few.

In the larger jets (i.e. G2 - GV) none of the TCEs need aircraft authority.

 

[80/20]

Jimpilot could you expand a bit on the term ”aircraft authority” (I am not questioning that what you are saying is correct).

 

[jimpilot]

With full type checks being done in the sim as well as initial ATPs, there just is no reason to do an aircraft check. The first time I flew a GV I had passengers in the back.

 

[jimpilot]

Sorry not sure I answered your question. Aircraft authority is the designation to do certin checking in the aircraft. Most TCEs only do checks in the simulator.

 

[jimpilot]

By the way 80/20 I see you are a TRE, very different rules in the JAA. Sim checks still require aircraft flight for I think 3 landings By your quals I assume you work for a center