FAA slashing JFK flights

[Flyby1206]

FAA to Slash Flights at JFK


By Christopher Conkey
Word Count: 457 | Companies Featured in This Article: United Airlines, AMR
WASHINGTON -- Ahead of a meeting next week with airlines, the Department of Transportation said it will seek to reduce the number of scheduled flights at New York's Kennedy airport by as much as 20% during peak rush hours next year in a bid to relieve congestion.
In August, over 100 flights were scheduled during certain hours at JFK, the FAA says. Next year, the agency is aiming to cap that number around 80.
JFK is last in on-time departures so far this year among major airports, and near bottom in arrivals, ...






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[JimNtexas]

Wait a second! I thought the problem was all us bug-smashers in the way of the big jets!

 

[ultrarunner]

About friggin time!

 

[Ex737Driver]

Now, which airline(s) will take the biggest cuts and who decides?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Now, which airline(s) will take the biggest cuts and who decides?

Welcome to the wonderful world of bureaucratic "problem solving."

 

[clickclickboom]

they should do a lookback for the past few years and see what airline added flights and how many available seats there were. If JB added one flight on a 150 seat airbus and delta added 3 in a 50 seater then they should lose slots on a 3-1 ratio.

Then if that same said airline was brain dead enough to add dash 8's they should be fined based on the " predatory, intentional delay, no financial benefit act of 2005".. For every dash 8 flight they added they should lose 1 flight on one of their mainline jets just for being dumbasses

 

[737 Pylt]

Welcome to the wonderful world of bureaucratic "problem solving."

Its simple. You limit Jet Blue. In the past 7 years JFK has become a parking lot due to them.

737

 

[Booster]

Flyby1206

Anyone have a WSJ subscription to fill us in on the whole article?
Here is the full article:

FAA to Slash Flights at JFK

[FONT=times new roman,times,serif][FONT=times new roman,times,serif]By CHRISTOPHER CONKEY
October 19, 2007 8:23 p.m.[/FONT]
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WASHINGTON -- Ahead of a meeting next week with airlines, the Department of Transportation said it will seek to reduce the number of scheduled flights at New York's Kennedy airport by as much as 20% during peak rush hours next year in a bid to relieve congestion.
In August, over 100 flights were scheduled during certain hours at JFK, the FAA says. Next year, the agency is aiming to cap that number around 80.
JFK is last in on-time departures so far this year among major airports, and near bottom in arrivals, according to DOT statistics. The FAA singled out the airport for scheduling reductions last month.
In recent weeks, FAA officials have increasingly pointed to overscheduling by airlines as a leading cause of delays, which have soared to record levels amid increasing demand for air travel this year. Transportation Secretary Mary Peters said the agency would rather not impose scheduling restrictions -- a move that can leave consumers with fewer choices during popular travel times -- but said inaction on the part of airlines left regulators with little choice.
"Our strong preference is to develop market-based solutions that will address delays and preserve passenger choice," Ms. Peters said in a statement. "But we will consider scheduling reductions as a last resort in order to prevent a repeat of this summer's nightmare delays."
A trade group representing airlines objected to the move. "This is a disappointing decision. Slashing operations at JFK alone will not solve the congestion problem but will shut the door on growth for our country's leading international gateway," said James May, CEO of the Air Transport Association. "We know that there are better solutions to New York's capacity needs and we are committed to working with FAA to put them into effect."
Airlines say the high-level of scheduling during certain hours reflects consumer demand, and they are pushing to get the FAA to redesign New York's airspace to improve efficiency in the region. That effort is proceeding slowly amid objection from local communities. Airlines are also hoping to convince the military to open restricted airspace during periods of bad weather to free up additional airways.
Next week, the FAA will meet individually with each carrier operating at JFK to determine exactly how many flights they can operate during rush hours. It is shaping up to be the most contentious round of scheduling negotiations since a similar process for Chicago's O'Hare International Airport dragged on for two weeks in 2004.
The Chicago round of negotiations mostly involved two dominant carriers, United Airlines and AMR Corp.'s American Airlines. The situation at JFK is more complicated and involves many domestic and international carriers, suggesting the talks could stretch for several weeks.
Write to Christopher Conkey at [email protected]

 

[cocknbull]

they should do a lookback for the past few years and see what airline added flights and how many available seats there were. If JB added one flight on a 150 seat airbus and delta added 3 in a 50 seater then they should lose slots on a 3-1 ratio.

Then if that same said airline was brain dead enough to add dash 8's they should be fined based on the " predatory, intentional delay, no financial benefit act of 2005".. For every dash 8 flight they added they should lose 1 flight on one of their mainline jets just for being dumbasses

Great logic. NOT.... I guess feeding people into a REAL route structure is not important?

 

[Blue Dude]

Great logic. NOT.... I guess feeding people into a REAL route structure is not important?

Hm, who's at fault here, the airline taking people O/D where they really want to go vs. the airline trying to more than double a connecting hub in two years at a congested airport? Delta's stated goal for JFK was to clog up the works to screw up JetBlue's operation. It worked too well and now the feds are involved. Nice going, guys. You got what you wanted, don't try to rewrite history now.

 

[Noserider76]

they should do a lookback for the past few years and see what airline added flights and how many available seats there were. If JB added one flight on a 150 seat airbus and delta added 3 in a 50 seater then they should lose slots on a 3-1 ratio.

Then if that same said airline was brain dead enough to add dash 8's they should be fined based on the " predatory, intentional delay, no financial benefit act of 2005".. For every dash 8 flight they added they should lose 1 flight on one of their mainline jets just for being dumbasses

JFK was designed to be an international airport. DL operates a huge international operation with the associated feed. It was JetBlue's idea to turn a temporarily underused international airport into a domestic hub. I agree DL could use larger aircraft but the fact is all the majors were at JFK decades before JetBlue was an idea and the airport worked fine.

 

[FADEC]

Its simple. You limit Jet Blue. In the past 7 years JFK has become a parking lot due to them.

737

As absurd as it sounds, a lot of the pain at JFK would be solved if Delta and or AA could come to a feed agreement with JetBlue. Scope at the legacy carriers is slowly being negated.

 

[737 Pylt]

Hm, who's at fault here, the airline taking people O/D where they really want to go vs. the airline trying to more than double a connecting hub in two years at a congested airport?

You're right, how dare they want to connect to international destinations out of JFK.......</sarcam>

Delta's stated goal for JFK was to clog up the works to screw up JetBlue's operation. It worked too well and now the feds are involved. Nice going, guys. You got what you wanted, don't try to rewrite history now.

Care to show that in writing sport, or are you just talking out of your arse?

As absurd as it sounds, a lot of the pain at JFK would be solved if Delta and or AA could come to a feed agreement with JetBlue. Scope at the legacy carriers is slowly being negated.

The above post was in response to the nimrod who thought that DL should have a 3-1 slot ratio reduction to Jet Blue. But you made a valid point as to the agreement of scope.
737

 

[Nado]

I think the important part that no one at Delta will address is that in the last year, the amount of Delta traffic at JFK 'MORE THAN DOUBLED', please explain how that demand just materialized out of thin air. The SE corner of JFK was a Delta parking lot this summer as Dash 8's to 767s waited to get a gate.

Not saying this is the only reason behind the delays, but more than double, whats up with that?

 

[gutshotdraw]

I volunteer my company to NEVER go to JFK again!

 

[airmack]

Dirty Tricks

I have an idea. Maybe Jetblue should contract several turboprop outfits and clog up Atlanta.

 

[HomerJ]

Its simple. You limit Jet Blue. In the past 7 years JFK has become a parking lot due to them.

737

And Comair, Chatauqua, Mesa, etc. have helped? Come on 737, you know better.