FAA bans personal use of PEDs by pilots

[Erlanger]

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FAA-Bans-PEDs-In-Airline-Cockpits221425-1.html

 

[IBNAV8R]

"These incidents illustrate the potential for such devices to create a hazardous distraction during critical phases of flight,"

There's already a rule about distractions during critical phases of flight. That one, too, is largely ignored - 99.9% of the time without any degradation of performance. Does anyone REALLY believe two pilots flew 2 hours without communication and overshot their destination because they were using their PEDs?

These people are every bit as stupid as those who think new laws will stop criminals who never obeyed the previous ones.

 

[crxpilot]

So I play my movie on the company ipad then?

 

[SIG600]

Pretty sure most FOMs already prohibited this under various language. Note it says "personal use".

 

[WSurf]

Too funny! This is the same FAA that allows PED's in the main cabin and over 80% of the passengers are banging out music on there iphones instead of listening to the FA's during safety announcements.

Guess it's much safer reading the USA Today in Paper form...... SMH Guess it's back to doing the crossword puzzle!!

 

[sg737]

They were asleep anyway, not on their computers..... Everyone knows this....

 

[Turtle21]

Check airman says...
Rule # 1 Do not use PEDs or read non-mission related reading materials.
Rule # 2 Stay awake at all times during flight.
Rule # 3 Break all rules as necessary to comply with Rule #2.

 

[eaglesview]

Too funny! This is the same FAA that allows PED's in the main cabin and over 80% of the passengers are banging out music on there iphones instead of listening to the FA's during safety announcements.

Guess it's much safer reading the USA Today in Paper form...... SMH Guess it's back to doing the crossword puzzle!!

Last I checked the passengers were not at the controls of the airplane.

 

[Dornier 335]

While we are at it, could the dear Feds require Flight Attendants to hold medicals like the rest of the world does?

 

[Freebrd]

OMG how will Jenny Leigh (aka Mercy) keep up with her postings on FI?! Oh the horror!

 

[WSurf]

Last I checked the passengers were not at the controls of the airplane.

Nevermind you don't get it....

 

[WSurf]

Check airman says...
Rule # 1 Do not use PEDs or read non-mission related reading materials.
Rule # 2 Stay awake at all times during flight.
Rule # 3 Break all rules as necessary to comply with Rule #2.

Yepper

~Yeah cause looking at Dials for hours can't possible make you sleepy....

 

[WSurf]

While we are at it, could the dear Feds require Flight Attendants to hold medicals like the rest of the world does?

Since nobody is required to listen to the safety briefings why not just get rid of the FA's and install Soda/Snack Machines????

 

[user912]

What's next. No nose picking?

 

[Jetjockey]

Once they ban farting I'm outta here!

 

[propjob27]

A rule to ignore.

Does anyone here really believe if you do something that causes you to get "caught" for this, you aren't already waaayy past fired anyway?

You overfly the airport for xxx minutes and you aren't working in this business anymore (well, at least not in the USA anyway).

Regardless if you had your kindle out.

/ ignore

 

[Dornier 335]

Once they ban farting I'm outta here!

Farting IS a distraction and should never be allowed in flight! Violating that rule below 10k should be punishable by death only!

Getting some spicy chili right now...

 

[waveflyer]

Last I checked the passengers were not at the controls of the airplane.

See? ^^^
It's more than possible to be a civilian "kernel"

Do what you gotta do pilots. Good lord. Of course the FAA has to ban these, and already has through our PoI's -
But as surf said above- we are not robots- therefore I thoroughly agree with controlled napping, and reading interesting things, and using your PED's and waking up, putting down all that and doing your job when you need to do your job- with discipline and good habits. Until then, you've got to know the politics and PR of this will never allow it to be officially sanctioned- and you gotta know you ARE doing your job if you're keeping your mind ready

Be responsible and do your job and no one will ever know what you said or what you read or if you snored. And if you haven't reconciled that a big part of your job is "scapegoat" and to take FULL responsibility if something bad happens regardless of how strictly you adhered to the minutia in manuals- you really shouldn't be a professional pilot.

One line I hate that I hear more and more "if wtf happens, I'm protected if I did xyz exactly as the manual says"
(Ie: "If I'm on the yellow line and I hit that bag cart, it's not my fault")
In a 74, maybe that flies- in a 73- it's still your fault - c'mon.

Hate that sh/t. You're job is to make sure nothing bad happens, and when it does- to handle it.

Do that

 

[waveflyer]

You know what this reminds me of?

When I played basketball, you'd have these overexcited new guys trying to prove themselves. The ball wouldn't be across half court or anywhere near and here they were knees bent 95 degrees, in a perfect defensive stance with their guy on the baseline 3 point line. Three times up and down the court, these dudes are winded and get beat because they were spending energy accomplishing nothing.

At some point that's just dumb- and it's about as perfect an analogy for the reading/ped police as there can be.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Next rule: No outward expressions of joy of any kind! At least AA pilots are already compliant.

 

[eaglesview]

See? ^^^
It's more than possible to be a civilian "kernel"

Do what you gotta do pilots. Good lord. Of course the FAA has to ban these, and already has through our PoI's -
But as surf said above- we are not robots- therefore I thoroughly agree with controlled napping, and reading interesting things, and using your PED's and waking up, putting down all that and doing your job when you need to do your job- with discipline and good habits. Until then, you've got to know the politics and PR of this will never allow it to be officially sanctioned- and you gotta know you ARE doing your job if you're keeping your mind ready

Be responsible and do your job and no one will ever know what you said or what you read or if you snored. And if you haven't reconciled that a big part of your job is "scapegoat" and to take FULL responsibility if something bad happens regardless of how strictly you adhered to the minutia in manuals- you really shouldn't be a professional pilot.

One line I hate that I hear more and more "if wtf happens, I'm protected if I did xyz exactly as the manual says"
(Ie: "If I'm on the yellow line and I hit that bag cart, it's not my fault")
In a 74, maybe that flies- in a 73- it's still your fault - c'mon.

Hate that sh/t. You're job is to make sure nothing bad happens, and when it does- to handle it.

Do that

My post was in response to a post talking about passengers not listening to f/a attendants safety briefings. The post then compared that to pilots use of PED's. So you should try to keep things in perspective. So who was being the 'kernel" now frickin know it all.

 

[waveflyer]

It's FI troll to you eagle


There'll be an end game though don't worry

 

[jonjuan]

Since nobody is required to listen to the safety briefings why not just get rid of the FA's and install Soda/Snack Machines????

Because the FAs are "primarily their for for your safety." :laugh::laugh:
In a crash, I expect most to be grabbing their doggie bags and climbing over seats and heading for the exits.