F-15 from Oregon ANG Down

[scoreboard]

To those who have paid the ultimate price. I knew him, a great guy, we flew together in Idaho.

 

[AdlerDriver]

That's what I figured. They made it sound like they were fighting down at 1K'. We usually run with a 5K hard deck, 10K soft.

SIG,
They could have been "fighting" down at 1K' - it just depends on your definition of "fighting". Most of the time with a full up fight (no RAG students), over water, it would be a 1K' hard deck and a 5K' soft deck. Over land it would be 500' vice 1K'. Unlimited maneuvering above 5K and limited below. Sounds like it was a full up 4v4 DACT war, so that make sense. He could have been "fighting" there at 1K' - making an ingress or egress or in his one 180 turn if he merged.

 

[SIG600]

SIG,
They could have been "fighting" down at 1K' - it just depends on your definition of "fighting". Most of the time with a full up fight (no RAG students), over water, it would be a 1K' hard deck and a 5K' soft deck. Over land it would be 500' vice 1K'. Unlimited maneuvering above 5K and limited below. Sounds like it was a full up 4v4 DACT war, so that make sense. He could have been "fighting" there at 1K' - making an ingress or egress or in his one 180 turn if he merged.

You guys are nuttier than us then. ACM training rules limit the hard deck to 5K or 5 above the lowest undercast. I can't imagine fighting 1K in a training enviroment. You go OCF and poof, you're done! Hell I have a hard enough time saving the deck at 5K. 1K and I may actually hit the ground/water.

 

[Scrapdog]

You guys are nuttier than us then. ACM training rules limit the hard deck to 5K or 5 above the lowest undercast. I can't imagine fighting 1K in a training enviroment. You go OCF and poof, you're done! Hell I have a hard enough time saving the deck at 5K. 1K and I may actually hit the ground/water.

We've been doing it for years dude. All our larger missions have a 1K floor and a 5K transition altitude. There have been very few issues - it's just a matter of strictly adhering to the TR's...something the Air Force is very intent on. Other services...I've seen otherwise....

 

[RamOne]

We've been doing it for years dude. All our larger missions have a 1K floor and a 5K transition altitude. There have been very few issues - it's just a matter of strictly adhering to the TR's...something the Air Force is very intent on. Other services...I've seen otherwise....


Pow!! Right in the kisser! Take that you scurvy USN/USMC fighter guys!

 

[scoreboard]

OK guys, take the fight to another thread, lets remember the dude.

Memorial service this 5Jul.

 

[GonzoFlyer]

I know G..... from Mt Home, Great Guy, He will be missed, say a prayer for his family.

 

[motch]

R I P, sir..

My thoughts and prayers for the Family.

Always
Motch