Exodus from Tradewinds?

[Draginass]

I´m hearing that Southern and some other 747 operators are hiring away a bunch of active and furloughed Tradewinds crewmembers. Anybody confirm or deny?

 

[CSY Mon]

Yeah, heard most of the furloughed guys ain't coming back.
(Don't blame 'em)

Tradewinds have always been a training school for other 'lines, last year it was Focus, now it is Southern and others.

The Einsteins in GSO can't figure out why people are leaving.....

 

[hawkerflyer]

The Einsteins in GSO can't figure out why people are leaving.....

Yeah. I can hear them now, probably saying something like..."But why are you leaving ? You get to fly a 747 !"

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

CSY Mon,

How many 747's are being operated by Tradewinds now, and where are they flying them?


Thanks and good luck!

 

[flyinlow67]

CSY Mon,

How many 747's are being operated by Tradewinds now, and where are they flying them?


Thanks and good luck!

Saw one on the ground in BFM last night. Really dark and no one moving around either.

 

[Thedude]

Saw one on the ground in BFM last night. Really dark and no one moving around either.

The one in BFM is there for heavy MX. Currenlty there are 3 a/c operating....well when they arent broke

 

[gringo]

Just heard through the ether today that they lost their certificate. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[CSY Mon]

Nah, they did not loose the certificate.

TDX had an extensive FAA audit a few months ago and came out clean.

They are not really trying to cut corners, just incompetent when it comes to hire MX managers that can get the job done
Then trying to remote control an airline from GSO: If something goes wrong out in the field they start pointing fingers at the crews right away.
The Einsteins don't understand that the planes are old, tired and poorly maintained, they think the crews are wreckless drivers and should be punished for breaking the planes..

2 whales flying on South America out of MIA, and one LAX plane flying on Asia, then the 4th one, which is THE dog of the fleet and currently in the hospital for a C check. Many are hoping it will never come back.

 

[Ready2Fly]

Nah, they did not loose the certificate.

TDX had an extensive FAA audit a few months ago and came out clean.

They are not really trying to cut corners, just incompetent when it comes to hire MX managers that can get the job done
Then trying to remote control an airline from GSO: If something goes wrong out in the field they start pointing fingers at the crews right away.
The Einsteins don't understand that the planes are old, tired and poorly maintained, they think the crews are wreckless drivers and should be punished for breaking the planes..

2 whales flying on South America out of MIA, and one LAX plane flying on Asia, then the 4th one, which is THE dog of the fleet and currently in the hospital for a C check. Many are hoping it will never come back.

What's the N number of that plane?

 

[G-force]

Bad location

It seems like the Triad Area INT/GSO is simply not going to be a good area for pilot employment for the forseable future.

 

[Ready2Fly]

N524UP by chance the one that is a POS?

 

[heilhaavir]

I was going to ask the same thing, 524UP was a real pig when I flew it years ago.

 

[Flybet3]

It seems like the Triad Area INT/GSO is simply not going to be a good area for pilot employment for the forseable future.

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That's why I bailed!!!! nothing good for long term plans out there....even if you wanted a "Normal" gig. Good luck with that too!

 

[Snakum]

It seems like the Triad Area INT/GSO is simply not going to be a good area for pilot employment for the forseable future.

I can vouch for that. Whether you have 500 hours or 5000 with a couple jet types. Nothing happening here ... too many locals fighting for too few seats, and willing to take whatever scraps for whatever pay just to be bringing something in. :crying:

I don't know how you full-timers do it. I ain't got the balls.

 

[Draginass]

Just heard it's about 10-15 of about 55 747 crewmembers leaving. Is Tradewinds going to run a replacement class?

 

[VABB]

Just heard it's about 10-15 of about 55 747 crewmembers leaving. Is Tradewinds going to run a replacement class?

Any of these guys scabs? I heard Tradewinds had some former EAL scabs that went to work for them when Excess One shut down. It seems like these guys move around from one bottom feeder to the next about every 4 or 5 years.

 

[G-force]

Same Way!!!

Yeah, heard most of the furloughed guys ain't coming back.
(Don't blame 'em)

Tradewinds have always been a training school for other 'lines, last year it was Focus, now it is Southern and others.

The Einsteins in GSO can't figure out why people are leaving.....

It seems like this operator is going the same way that Independence Air went!!!! Belly UP!!!

 

[Thedude]

It seems like this operator is going the same way that Independence Air went!!!! Belly UP!!!

TDX isnt going away anytime soon. There air some airbus routes that are very profitable and are tied to long term contracts. The problem is with the 747 program. Old airframes coupled with the fact the owner(s) doesnt want to spend the money to bring those birds up to snuff.

 

[G-force]

2nd Mishap!!!!

Just heard through the ether today that they lost their certificate. Can anyone confirm this?

This operator might just lose their certificate now that another accident has occurred in just a short time-span!!!!There will certainly be alot of EXPLAINING to do for the FEDS!!!!!

 

[Draginass]

What was the other accident?

 

[Thedude]

I know I dont keep with with goings-on in the company but a second accident? Are you sure your not confused with the Arrow mishap?

 

[pdkaviator]

TDX accident in MDE

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=80522

 

[federico]

Every operator in Miami and Yip would be grounded if an engine failure at V1 would equal losing their operating permit. And for all you not it alls I wounder how many people would elect not to reject out of mountain infested Mde. When Mr. G Force ever flys out of the 48 states he can comment but not before.

 

[Draginass]

I've been told that in addition to people leaving voluntarily, Tradewinds is furloughing (again) as well. Some guys who were recalled have been furloughed again before they even showed up for work.

 

[G-force]

Calendar year 2005???

What was the other accident?

Was remembering reading a article on a mishap involving TDX aircraft.not an accident.