Ever been charged with a violation?

[KlingonLRDRVR]

Drifter,

Flying to low in a 1946 Champ alot less than 1000 feet over a strip of conjested land between two lakes less than one block wide witnessed by two rockie cops in 1986 would have gotten you between 60 and 180 days suspension. I saw the FAA lawyers guide book myself. He gave me my choice. I took 60 days. His story was Elizabeth Dole, his boss, was cracking down and he could not just give me a civil penalty. Back then the FAA was definately not "kinder and gentler". Yes I was stupid. Had a girl in back with a camera who wanted a picture of Paul Bunyun and Babe the Blue Ox statute. That was 14 yeays ago, now your milage may very. The things guys will do for the opposite sex. Geeezzz.

KlingonLRDRVR

P.S. I did the informal conference route. Quess who the FAA sent up for the conference. Yes he was an FAA Regional Office attorney. I recommend calling the FAA dude handling the case and ask him piont blank what is the penalty going to be if you don't bring an attorney in. If you do so nice he will likely tell you. That is assuming that there is is no geting out of your fix. Attorneys can't always perform miricles and you just heard that from one.

 

[Drifter]

Ok here's the story... A particular flight instructor was on the outskirts of a town... the instructor pulled the throttle to simulate and engine failure... the student turned toward a soccer field (which was on the edge of town) and tried to make the field. Of course the student sucked at it so the instructor went around and demo'd into the same field... after that they climbed up again and got the student to do it successfully. At no time were they below 700 AGL. Just as it happened, there were un-noticed kids on this field playing soccer and their moms called and complained. Also there happened to be an FAA employee of some sort who recognized the paint scheme on the aircraft and through his own investigation found out who the instructor and student were. The student was questioned and cleared of any wrong-doing. However the instructor was investigated and recieved a letter stating that the investigation is over and that the file is being sent to Kansas Legal Council (whatever that means). The instructor has had a lawyer the whole time and has complied with everything the FAA has asked for. This was quite some time ago and the instructor still has not heard whether there was a violation or not. The waiting is starting to become an annoyance (to say the least).

 

[414Flyer]

Drifter,

Flying to low in a 1946 Champ alot less than 1000 feet over a strip of conjested land between two lakes less than one block wide witnessed by two rockie cops in 1986 would have gotten you between 60 and 180 days suspension. I saw the FAA lawyers guide book myself. He gave me my choice. I took 60 days. His story was Elizabeth Dole, his boss, was cracking down and he could not just give me a civil penalty. Back then the FAA was definately not "kinder and gentler". Yes I was stupid. Had a girl in back with a camera who wanted a picture of Paul Bunyun and Babe the Blue Ox statute. That was 14 yeays ago, now your milage may very. The things guys will do for the opposite sex. Geeezzz.

KlingonLRDRVR

Sounds like you must have been over Brainerd.

 

[SkyWestCRJPilot]

Drifter, If your friend is wondering if he has something in his file then tell him to go to the FSDO and ask an inspector to look it up. It's all on a computer in the FSDO and they can show it to him very easily. Any pilot has the right to see what's in their own file.

 

[Simon Says]

414 and Drifter,

Being a responsible Feeder pilot for a particular Major out of MSP, I would have to say that Babe the Blue Ox and Paul Bunyan are on the Centerline for Runway 31 at Bemidji MN.

 

[414Flyer]

okay, for some reason I was thinking Brainerd. Well I was not too far off geographically. I used to fly out of Fargo for a while

 

[Drifter]

414Flyer,
Did you fly a 340 for FargoJet?

 

[414Flyer]

414Flyer,
Did you fly a 340 for FargoJet?

Flew a seneca for Fargo Jet, and flew a C-340 for the weather mod side of the company

 

[jsoceanlord]

about twenty years ago a friend took off on the wrong parallel runway at san jose. the right one is for small planes and the left for jets. it happened that a united dc-8 was making a practice approach and had to go around. my friend got a suspension and yes, it caused some problems with his career. funny thing is that i had done the same thing at san jose, at night, on my only time in there. the small right runway is really/was really hard to distinguish at night.

whether to fight or to cooperate with the faa is hard to say. a combination seems best to me.

the faa seemed more punitive 15 years ago, although it's hard to say.

i know a boss who told his pilot that if an faa inspector ever thought he saw him (this pilot) flying passengers on the floor of his cargo plane, he should deny it emphatically.