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E-Man

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I've checked their website, googled it, looked at airline pilot central, will fly for food, etc. Can't find any pilot-related info whatsoever on pay, schedules, etc. All I know is that they're hiring pilots according to their website. Any info appreciated. PM or post.
 
Don't know much more than you, but I do know that starting pay is $65/hr and $3000 +per diem during training. About 40 flights right now per week between JFK and STA plus they do charters... Adding another 757ER in Dec with more to come as well as adding JFK-CDG or ZRH and possibly other US city pairs... Trying to find out more myself. I'll share the info as I get it. Hope this helped and isn't stuff you already know...
 
Update

Alright, here is some more stuff I've found out and sa rehash of what I've already posted. A little more organized I guess....;)

4 A/C currently, B757-200ER I believe, taking delivery of 6-10 more.

Currently flying JFK-STN, adding JFK-CDG and possibly ZRH. Also adding ORD as another US city.

$65/hr FO starting pay with about a 3% annual increase right now. Captains start at $110/hr.
$2.00/hr per diem

12 days off minimum and they use Pref-bid.
4 days of reserve(I believe) starting at 2pm

Montly guarantee is 65 hrs, but should expect to fly 80-85 hrs/mth

24 or 48 hr layovers in London.

Also get profit sharing among other benefits. 401k, etc....

Don't know about vacation or medical ins. details....

I'm working on getting more info, that's about all I can think to ask at this point. If you have specific questions about anything I haven't thought to ask, please let me know and I'll try to find out.

Hope it all helps!!!
 
Hi!

Thanx 4 the info!

I believe there's 3 other airlines doing the same thing: MaxAir, some French company, and a 4th airline-I can't remember the name. I also read that some airline (BA? AA?) was trying to by MaxAir, I think.

Oh yeah, Lufthansa, I believe was also going to set up some of their planes in all business class to compete with these types of airlines.

cliff
ILN
 
Hi!

Thanx 4 the info!

I believe there's 3 other airlines doing the same thing: MaxAir, some French company, and a 4th airline-I can't remember the name. I also read that some airline (BA? AA?) was trying to by MaxAir, I think.

Oh yeah, Lufthansa, I believe was also going to set up some of their planes in all business class to compete with these types of airlines.

cliff
ILN

I believe the others are MaxJet, L'Avion (Paris Orly-JFK), and SilverJet.

Virgin, BA and Lufty are seeting up similar type operations to compete. Should be interesting...

D1
 
Alright, here is some more stuff I've found out and sa rehash of what I've already posted. A little more organized I guess....;)

4 A/C currently, B757-200ER I believe, taking delivery of 6-10 more.

Currently flying JFK-STN, adding JFK-CDG and possibly ZRH. Also adding ORD as another US city.

$65/hr FO starting pay with about a 3% annual increase right now. Captains start at $110/hr.
$2.00/hr per diem

12 days off minimum and they use Pref-bid.
4 days of reserve(I believe) starting at 2pm

Montly guarantee is 65 hrs, but should expect to fly 80-85 hrs/mth

24 or 48 hr layovers in London.

Also get profit sharing among other benefits. 401k, etc....

Don't know about vacation or medical ins. details....

I'm working on getting more info, that's about all I can think to ask at this point. If you have specific questions about anything I haven't thought to ask, please let me know and I'll try to find out.

Hope it all helps!!!

No big deal so don't take offense, but ther is no such thing as a B757 ER. Boeing simply has never differentiated between the these airframes.
 
Spooky--AA has domestic and ER 757's. The 757-200ER's have the HMG (AA calls them HDG's...whatever) and the same electrical system as the 767-2/3ER's. TC
 
Spooky--AA has domestic and ER 757's. The 757-200ER's have the HMG (AA calls them HDG's...whatever) and the same electrical system as the 767-2/3ER's. TC

Sorry but I'll bet the house on this one. Boeing has never certified a B757-200ER or 300ER. The HMG just happens to be an option for the basic airframe. The last B767 that I flew had 3 HMGs on it. Yes it was an ER. Next time your in a B757 with the HMG option take a look at the CofA. It will not say ER. Take alook at the next B767-300ER that your on and you will that it says ER. I didn't make the rules here but that's the way Boeing did it from scratch.

I believe the APU in the ER aircraft may have some sublte difference but I was never smart enough to figure what they had done for that. The B767 200ER that I flew recently had a standby hydraulic fuel boost pump. Never seen that option before in my life. So you see that there are any number of configurations available to match the mission. I can only assume that Boeing never initially envisioned using the B757 for long range ops and when the time came that it made marketing sense, they did not want to incurr the added costs associated recertification of an existing airframe. As you may recall when the B767-200 first came on the scene it was set up as an international airplane almost from the git go. Save this piece of trivia as you can use it for free beers on your next layover!

One last thought. In Boeing Speak, ER stands for Extened Range. Since all B757 have the same tankage, (75K) unless they have some after market aux tanks, ie. PATS the term Extended Range would be meaningless.
 
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Sorry but I'll bet the house on this one. Boeing has never certified a B757-200ER or 300ER. The HMG just happens to be an option for the basic airframe. The last B767 that I flew had 3 HMGs on it. Yes it was an ER. Next time your in a B757 with the HMG option take a look at the CofA. It will not say ER. Take alook at the next B767-300ER that your on and you will that it says ER. I didn't make the rules here but that's the way Boeing did it from scratch.

I believe the APU in the ER aircraft may have some sublte difference but I was never smart enough to figure what they had done for that. The B767 200ER that I flew recently had a standby hydraulic fuel boost pump. Never seen that option before in my life. So you see that there are any number of configurations available to match the mission. I can only assume that Boeing never initially envisioned using the B757 for long range ops and when the time came that it made marketing sense, they did not want to incurr the added costs associated recertification of an existing airframe. As you may recall when the B767-200 first came on the scene it was set up as an international airplane almost from the git go. Save this piece of trivia as you can use it for free beers on your next layover!

One last thought. In Boeing Speak, ER stands for Extened Range. Since all B757 have the same tankage, (75K) unless they have some after market aux tanks, ie. PATS the term Extended Range would be meaningless.


Just went thourgh the type and you are right. However Boeing has the authority to re-designated as desired with any of the above "options" and the FAA is dumb enough to say ok. You are both correct.
 
Just went thourgh the type and you are right. However Boeing has the authority to re-designated as desired with any of the above "options" and the FAA is dumb enough to say ok. You are both correct.


Well I'll stand by my previous statement. There are no B757 ER's. If you look at the Production lists you will see several ER designations, but having flown several of these aircraft I know form first hand experience that thaey have aux tanks installed. Again for the definitive last time, Boeing has never built a B757-200ER.
 
No sweat man!

No big deal so don't take offense, but ther is no such thing as a B757 ER. Boeing simply has never differentiated between the these airframes.

Hey, no offense taken. I'm just postin' what my buddy tells me that flies for Eos. If he says they fly 757 ERs, then that's what I'm puttin', and he's flown enough Boeings that I would hope he would know what he's talking about. Now, whether or not there are actually any 757 ERs, I don't know. I'll let you know after I get a job there and finish training... ;) I'll just be happy to fly a Boeing and get out of my puny RJ!!!

By the way, they are supposed to begin interviewing later this month, which is more along the lines of the original topic of this thread... You're welcome!!
 
http://www.eosairlines.com/flyeos/overview/seatCabin.jsf

48 Seats on a 75 from JFK to London? I'm don't have an MBA in buisness, but with that length how do they make money?

Only two possible ways to make money with those seats: price or frequency. Given that you can only fly those aircraft across the Pond so many times per day I would say price is the key factor. Last I heard, the price for an EOS ticket was higher than a ticket from Maxjet - that said, the seats are more comfortable (fully flat as opposed to a recliner). I am sure the break-even load factor is pretty high for these flights given the small number of total seats - probably need 33-35 seats occupied to make money (especially when fuel costs increase).

I hear EOS is a big hit among the NYC-London Investment Banker and Hedge Fund manager set... At least that is what my boss tells me.
 
Hi!

The cheapest round trip fare I found on Eos was $3700. They have a 6'6" lie-flat "suite". It will seat 2 people for short periods. They fly across the pond.

MAXjet was $1700. They have 2x2x2 seating (767s I think), and fly across the pond, plus other US destinations. They just applied for SEA to Shanghai.

I have been interested in applying at MAXjet and Eos. I don't have enough hours for Eos (5000 TT FW). MAXjet doesn't have a way for pilots to apply (no openings showing). I heard that some guys HAVE recently gotten hired.

C U!

cliff
YIP
 
No big deal so don't take offense, but ther is no such thing as a B757 ER. Boeing simply has never differentiated between the these airframes.

There is an ETOPS version of the 757. It has some additional equipment (HMG, etc) that the standard 757 does not have.
 
Just got a call from Eos.Do not know anybody there, I think I applied 4 months ago, never heard anything from then, was pretty suprised. Any more info since the last post. Quality of life, stability, growth, where and how is training and last but not least, how do the Crews like it?. Appreciate any response.
 
Just got a call from Eos.Do not know anybody there, I think I applied 4 months ago, never heard anything from then, was pretty suprised. Any more info since the last post. Quality of life, stability, growth, where and how is training and last but not least, how do the Crews like it?. Appreciate any response.

Adding more 757s for new routes - EWR-STN and JFK/EWR-Paris (not sure which airports for that route). Load factors are strong and EOS is considered more luxurious than Maxjet - it has a loyal following. Sounds like EOS is doing pretty well.

I presume it would be helpful to live in the NY area but not required.
 
Thanks. Any info on websites containing interview profiles? I was told that they are starting JFK-paris and London-Dubai!!upgrade time 12-18 months, starting fo pay 66$ ,captain 113$.maybe someone out there works for Eos?.Any info is helpful.
 

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