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Enforcing "Training Contracts"? Evidently, they are enforcible...

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For the last replier :

You "thought" incorrectly. And judging someone, and also using that particular phraseology, that you know absolutely nothing about, shows alot about you, and your prejudiced way of thinking, sir/maa'am.

I am a really hard worker and have been committed to doing an outstanding job. I do not want to go into much detail yet, because I am going into litigation I hope very soon.

Suffice it to say,my employer, who has already gone through more than 1 or 2 pilots in the past, to say the least.... has sued others, and lost in California, which is an "At will' state. He also has, in my and others' opinion, extremely "questionable" business practices in many regards. He has not only illegally withheld paychecks (and hopefully heavily fined by the Labor Dept.), in the past, but even tried to withhold his VP's retirement somehow, and failed.

After, ferrying one of his newly sold, mid size jets to the depths of Angola ... a Category "5", dangerous place to fly into and stay... also greatly facilitating the sale of one if his airplanes, I contend that he dis-regarded his verbal agreement of re-imbersable expenses to me; I am out several thousand dollars, and when I complained to my immediate supervisor (who has all the while agreed with me on all issues...), the employer found out about it (yes, it was a strongly worded angry email...), and in retalitation, and in large "ego-ness", fired me. Boom, after almost 2 years of hard work, getting sick as hell in Angola, and other things that will go not mentioned here.

Ofcourse, now he is saving $$ on having to pay an FO, as he is also trying to sell out his airplanes, and in tough economic times.

Now he has threatened me, through one of his lawyers (he has tons of dough ...) to go after "25,000 in training costs, if I sue him in small claims court for the money, I believe he rightfully owes me ... and I neither did I do anything "grossly" wrong, nor did I quit !

Not only that, but even if these bogus, "training contracts", were held up in a court of law, especially in California .....where, I understand they are not, but ...

a) I never quit b) The first recurrent was 11 months ago, so at 12,500, that would be only $1041.00 ; and the second recurrent (which I didn't even have to take, because I am an FO, and only need to do once a year.... but my Capt wanted me as his sim partner...) was 6 months ago, and that, pro-rated would only have $7000.00 left on it, as it cost them 14,000. So, 8041.00, and he is obviously trying to bulldog me by threatening to "go after me" for 25K. ( Add to that, that I found out he really used a "training slot" for the first recurrent , that went with one of the other airplanes he is selling, and never paid out of pocket..... )

Hows that for the tip of the iceberg on this employer, and sad situation on the part of him ?

p.s "youmustbe joking" sums up "trainoing costs" really well ... he/she rocks !! " :)
 
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^Well, at least you didn't lose your position over not having a sense of humor.

Good luck out on the final frontier.

C
 
Sorry Corona :)

Corrona,

Ok, you were being light hearted :) I apologize for sounding harsh then, as I was still bitter at a quite un-expected job loss ! I also feel a little better now, after getting sick from my little ordeal in Luanda, Angola, and what had happened with this former employer, while I was trying to get home safely.

Let us hope that the energies some individuals put out to the Universe, will flow back to them someday ....

My the force be with you to !! Star Trek "Entrerprise" fan?? That's me, in the middle of the two aliens ... pretty scary stuff !

Sincerely, squadronB52
 
For the last replier :

After, ferrying one of his newly sold, mid size jets to the depths of Angola ... a Category "5", dangerous place to fly into and stay... also greatly facilitating the sale of one if his airplanes, I contend that he dis-regarded his verbal agreement of re-imbersable expenses to me; I am out several thousand dollars, and when I complained to my immediate supervisor (who has all the while agreed with me on all issues...), the employer found out about it (yes, it was a strongly worded angry email...), and in retalitation, and in large "ego-ness", fired me. Boom, after almost 2 years of hard work, getting sick as hell in Angola, and other things that will go not mentioned here.

I understand, Try going to Angola in a PA28!!! :eek: I am not a fearful person but that place can be down right scary and filthy also. I would rather fly in to Iraq or North Korea than go back to that place again.
 
Any chance they told him the (unpaid) training would take a week or two, during which time he would be spending his own time studying and waiting around for someone to be available to train him, but ended up spending a month waiting (unpaid) and on his own dime? That would be pretty common. What about HIS time, HIS expectations of being treated fairly? What is that worth?

That is so funny (and true) that it's sad LOL
 

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