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Easiest a/c to get a type rating in?

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The $100,000,000 Question
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Looking for opinions on what the easiest plane to get an initial (never flown turbine before) type rating/ATP in is? (preferrably able to do part of the ride in the plane to avoid the restricted rating)

And what opinions on where the best place to do a type rating are at (besides a 121 airline)
 
Why bother?

Best aircraft is the one someone will hire you to fly. Best place is where the company will send you for training and pay for room and board. SOE restriction won't matter since your going to be flying with a captian. After you get your hours flying the aircraft they are paying you for then you can get the restriction removed.
 
The easiest would be the Citation. Hands down. It is easier than a 421 to fly, things happen just a touch faster is all.

But Wiggums has a good point. Use that time and money to get a rating in an aircraft someone will hire you to fly. No matter what type.
 
true it would be nice if someone else would front the bill. It would be nice if someone would pay off all the bills for my private, instrument, commercial (single and multi), and CFI's costs.
I must say it was nice that my employer paid for my seaplane add on even if I haven't flown a seaplane since the checkride.

But that wasn't an option hence the comment about 121 operators.

Any airplane anyone is willing to pay me to fly I have long since been qualified to fly.

I am looking at doing my ATP and figured what better way than to do a type rating at the same time so I can get turbine experience. I know that an insurance company isn't going to let me take a citation or lear up anytime soon. heck I couldn't even get insurance approval to take up a baron even though according to the FAA I am qualified to teach in one.

I don't see this as a pay for training issue any more than paying for any other rating I have. There is no job attached to this. It is something I want to do to try to keep some smidgen of interest and motivation in flying.

In fact I see it as a way to have a better shot at a job because then I will have a better understanding of turbine operations and will have shown that I can do a type rating. And I will get my ATP with it which at least then will let me apply for some more jobs.
 
No point in getting a type rating unless your also going to get a couple hundred hours of experience in the aircraft. Save your money and get your ATP in whatever light twin your most familiar with. That a college degree will show that you’re trainable.

If you want to find out more about turbine airplanes just find some books. Much cheaper then spending 10k for a type.
 
Take your ATP ride in the Citation. The type ride is the same as your ATP ride. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Enjoy, it is a very easy plane to fly.
 
Although I've never flown the CE-500 I agree that you should look into the ATP/Type in it as its one of, if not the most common jet charter/corp aircraft out there aside from the King Air. The KA being most common prop charter/corp aircraft. I it were me I'd want to do it at a company that does it with the actual aircraft, if I'm paying that much I want to fly the actual thing. I think someone said 1800 ALL ATPS has a good CE-500 type program where you fly the actual plane. Hope it helps and have fun.

Try www.allatps.com
 
There are several companies out there that will do that. As previously stated, the ATP is the same checkride as the type ride. All the quickie courses will require you to home study your butt off.

While it will not get you an immediate job flying as a Citation Captain, it does a few things for you. It shows you are trainable. And it means that from now on, with very few exceptions, you can do full types in the sim.

As for money, if you are presently flying regularly, the type ride in the Citation should not a makor concern. And doing a name ATP course will cost you as much or more than some of the Citation courses out there.
 
Citation type

I got a type in a Citation for all the reasons Rick mentioned. I already had my ATP. I thought that being typed would demonstrate that I am trainable and can be typed. Aside from perhaps impressing some Chief Flight Instructors at the bigger flight schools (and getting interviews and/or jobs), the type didn't help me particularly.

Having said that, I will again recommend Mike Pappas at Flight Crew Systems in San Diego. I got my type with Mike thirteen years ago almost to the day when he was Professional Airline Systems. I enjoyed the experience thoroughly. All flight training was in the airplane, including V1 cuts. The Citation is extremely friendly, and lands just as easy as any Cessna - maybe easier. I don't believe that Mike owns the company now, but I'm 100% certain that he is still the examiner.

Hope that helps - but I would consider the decision carefully for all the reasons stated above. It may not be worth the cost in the long run.
 

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