dom ----> chief pilot

[AeroDork]

anyone else have issues with flying dom's being made cp? i understand its a trend nowadays. we dont have an ops manual/sop/sms/etc but by god we have the shiniest leading edges and cleanest interiors in the biz. how do you rectify this without just leaving?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

anyone else have issues with flying dom's being made cp? i understand its a trend nowadays. we dont have an ops manual/sop/sms/etc but by god we have the shiniest leading edges and cleanest interiors in the biz. how do you rectify this without just leaving?

Flying around these days without an Ops Manual/SOPs is pretty rare, in the vary least...and if they can find one fool to wear all the hats for the same price they are usually thrilled.

Good Luck!

 

[HawkerF/O]

anyone else have issues with flying dom's being made cp? i understand its a trend nowadays. we dont have an ops manual/sop/sms/etc but by god we have the shiniest leading edges and cleanest interiors in the biz. how do you rectify this without just leaving?

Is your issue the DOM running the show or the lack of standards and basic materials?

A simple safety audit (not reporting to the CP/DOM/DO) would bring these issues to light, that is, if you could possibly make that happen.

It's unfortunate people allow their multi-million dollar assets (usually their largest asset) to be operated like this. It's a problem that usually gets attention when someone gets hurt. Notice I said gets attention, not gets fixed. Hendrix Motorsports is a great example of this type of low rent bottom feeding. Minor changes to that place after the department's lack of policies/structure/leadership managed to kill 10 people, including the principle's son. I've yet to hear of anyone losing their job because of that crash. Saw a writeup on Nascar flight departments a few years ago. I remember seeing 1 department's pilots wearing cowboy hats, and them 'gret big 'ol belt buckles. I laughed so hard, but hey, if you allow that type of stuff to go on........ The 1st sign I knew something was up was the fact the department was profiled in Pro Pilot in the 1st place.

 

[AeroDork]

my issue is lack of standards and a we've never done that around here why should we do it now attitude.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

my issue is lack of standards and a we've never done that around here why should we do it now attitude.

The best way to play most of these good ole boy type of jobs is to get your experience and move on ASAP...They will never change IF the attitude goes right up to the owner.

You can always keep an acceptable level of safety when you are in the cockpit... what they do on their own?...whatever...

 

[HawkerF/O]

The best way to play most of these good ole boy type of jobs is to get your experience and move on ASAP...They will never change IF the attitude goes right up to the owner.

You can always keep an acceptable level of safety when you are in the cockpit... what they do on their own?...whatever...

That's good advice. The only thing I would have included is that when you do move on, if you are given an exit interview by HR, don't be bashful in telling them why you are leaving. I wouldn't sound like you have it out for the guy, but hey, "I don't want to leave, but the lack of standards and professionalism in the aviation side of the house has left me with no other choice, blah blah blah".

 

[yfly]

Unfortunately an OPS/SOP manual does not guarentee professionalism. AeroDork, if you could magically make a manual appear it wouldn't be followed. I have worked at, and left for this reason, companies where the manuals existed and no one followed them or even knew what they said. At the other end of the sprectrum, I have flown at a company as a contract pilot that didn't have any manual. After several trips I learned no manual existed. I was amazed, these guys all performed consistently and professionally. What I am trying to get across is, professionalism doesn't come from a manual. Professionalism comes from professional (acting) pilots.

 

[j3driver]

Is your issue the DOM running the show or the lack of standards and basic materials?

A simple safety audit (not reporting to the CP/DOM/DO) would bring these issues to light, that is, if you could possibly make that happen.

It's unfortunate people allow their multi-million dollar assets (usually their largest asset) to be operated like this. It's a problem that usually gets attention when someone gets hurt. Notice I said gets attention, not gets fixed. Hendrix Motorsports is a great example of this type of low rent bottom feeding. Minor changes to that place after the department's lack of policies/structure/leadership managed to kill 10 people, including the principle's son. I've yet to hear of anyone losing their job because of that crash. Saw a writeup on Nascar flight departments a few years ago. I remember seeing 1 department's pilots wearing cowboy hats, and them 'gret big 'ol belt buckles. I laughed so hard, but hey, if you allow that type of stuff to go on........ The 1st sign I knew something was up was the fact the department was profiled in Pro Pilot in the 1st place.

I happen to know the pilot with the cowboy hat and belt buckle; he is a very good pilot. I guess you think that wearing a tie, stripes, Ray-Bans, and 10 different things hanging off your belt is what makes you professional.

 

[Floyd94]

I have to ask, what the hell is a "DOM"??

 

[semperfido]

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