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donvag

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Im new on this forum and I have worked hard to get the experience I have to apply for a regional airline. Here is my situation. About 2 years ago I had a girlfriend who had a couple of loose screws in her head. After her and I broke up she would keep harasing me and calling me at strange hours. One day she yells at me when she sees me at a club she knew I was going to be at and I yelled back at her. She left and four days later I get a letter I had to go to court for a restraining order. Since I knew she was going to lie about everything I was confident I was going to win. Well the judge believed her lies. Aparently she said I spat at her face and I told my friend to push her. The judge believed everything. The judge told me it was not criminal but I still had to get finger printed. I later found out through a friend that she had this ALL planned out. My ex was did not think I would do anything to her. She just wanted revenge. I have not violated the restraining order and it has been a year already and I have the times to apply for most regionals. Will it come out in an interview? Should I bother on applying? Should I have to explain myself? Any info will help! Thanx in advance
 
donvag said:
Im new on this forum and I have worked hard to get the experience I have to apply for a regional airline. Here is my situation. About 2 years ago I had a girlfriend who had a couple of loose screws in her head. After her and I broke up she would keep harasing me and calling me at strange hours. One day she yells at me when she sees me at a club she knew I was going to be at and I yelled back at her. She left and four days later I get a letter I had to go to court for a restraining order. Since I knew she was going to lie about everything I was confident I was going to win. Well the judge believed her lies. Aparently she said I spat at her face and I told my friend to push her. The judge believed everything. The judge told me it was not criminal but I still had to get finger printed. I later found out through a friend that she had this ALL planned out. My ex was did not think I would do anything to her. She just wanted revenge. I have not violated the restraining order and it has been a year already and I have the times to apply for most regionals. Will it come out in an interview? Should I bother on applying? Should I have to explain myself? Any info will help! Thanx in advance
You will have some splaining to do. I really don't know how it will be looked at. I would say it will disqualify you from some companies, others probably don't care.

Give it a shot, what do you have to lose? You never know who the interviewer is. Lots of people have nasty divorces in their background so it is probably not as uncommon as you may think.
 
Relax

Won't affect you at all. You didn't break any laws, nor were you arrested, charged or convicted of any crime. If she's really crazy, and you didn't do any of the things she alleged, then why havn't you filed a civil suit yet? I can't speak for you, but if somebody did something like that to me, we'd be headed for court ASAP. (And I detest lawyers.)
 
The order won't show up on anyones radar.

Don't volunteer the information for sure, but if asked tell the truth and be brief. Also, if this gal is that bent, make sure you keep your applications tight-lipped as she may likely try to ruin your chances if she knows where you are applying.

Very unlikely, but if it is something you want that badly and she is that much of a head-case, caution should be the word of the day.

Ditto on the civil suit, especially if she pulls anything else. Be advised, that civil cases are a pain in the arse for everyone involved. There are two good reasons to proceed with a civil suit. 1. compensation 2. get her to stop. If she quits on her own and is broke, you can avoid all the pain of a civil suit and use your money for flying instead of giving it to an attorney. Another reason for a civil suit would be to counter her actions and add emphasis to the fact that her actions/accusations were invalid or unfounded.
 
cornbread said:
Ditto on the civil suit, especially if she pulls anything else. Be advised, that civil cases are a pain in the arse for everyone involved. There are two good reasons to proceed with a civil suit. 1. compensation 2. get her to stop. If she quits on her own and is broke, you can avoid all the pain of a civil suit and use your money for flying instead of giving it to an attorney. Another reason for a civil suit would be to counter her actions and add emphasis to the fact that her actions/accusations were invalid or unfounded.
The heck with that civil suit idea!

If you want to talk suits, maybe you should hollow her out and wear her like a wet suit down to the judge that issued the restraining order. Just make your voice sound like a chick's and tell the judge you want the restraining order lifted.
 
FN FAL said:
The heck with that civil suit idea!

If you want to talk suits, maybe you should hollow her out and wear her like a wet suit down to the judge that issued the restraining order. Just make your voice sound like a chick's and tell the judge you want the restraining order lifted.
Kinda like an Edgar suit, right!!
 
"Ditto on the civil suit, especially if she pulls anything else. Be advised, that civil cases are a pain in the arse for everyone involved. There are two good reasons to proceed with a civil suit. 1. compensation"

WTF?!?!?! I friggin have come to HATE that word......compensation! Oooooh, I stubbed my toe on cement...I'm suing the cement company....ooooh, I am fat....I am suing McDonald's....oooh, I spilled hot coffee on my lap.....I gotta sue Dunkin Donuts...."I deserve COMPENSATION"

THAT IS SO FRIGGIN STUPID!!!!!!!

This lame mentality has taken over the country......Let's sue so we can get our flying paid for?!?!?!?!? I got a friggin idea......GET A JOB AND PAY FOR YOUR OWN FLYING!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
FN...are you Ed Gein reincarnated? good idea though;)
 
I would bet it will never come up. I don't remember any airline applications asking anything about restraining orders. They just asked if you have ever been arrested, to which you can honestly answer no. Don't bring it up. Keep in mind though, if they ask, it's always better to be honest. But that doesn't mean you have to volunteer anything!
 
EX_CV580FR8Dawg said:
FN...are you Ed Gein reincarnated? good idea though;)
Hahaha...it's a Wisconsin thing!

You should see the look on my wife's friend's faces when they come over and I ask them if they want to see my collection of belts made out of human nipples.

Staying for dinner?
 
donvag

I won't go into the details of my story but here is a different piece of advice. I Hate when people lie and get away with it BUT DO NOT GO BACK TO COURT, she lied and she will do it again. You will blow alot of money and take a BIG chance of making it worse. I would only go back if she is still coming after you. If not get as far away from her as possible, be more selective to those you date and be thankful that bit$$ didn't get away with more. At this point unless someone at the airline you are applying to says something to HR no one will ever know. If it comes up tell the truth. Sure revenge MAY be possible and COULD be sweet but is it worth her getting away again with lies that do end up on your record and ruin your carreer?
 
The finger printing part is what concerns me. With fingerprinting comes a paper trail.


I'd recommend you consult a professional career counselor who can pull a background check on you and talk you through how to handle this in an interview.

It is going to cost you some money, but it is better advice than you'll get here. You get what you pay for.

Try

www.flytheline.com
 
I can't believe I'm going to say this...

I agree with English. :D

Get some professional legal counsel from an aviation expert. Try www.jetlaw.com for starters.

Also, in many states, after a period of time has passed and she hasn't filed any follow-up complaints, many judges will allow you to have the restraining order, otherwise known as an "order of protection" lifted, regardless of how much she complains.

No matter what, make sure you have an attorney representing you this time; it makes all the difference in the world, trust me. I do a lot of my own lawsuits when I get screwed by someone off eBay or at a dealer repair shop etc, and on the important ones, having an attorney gives your argument more credence to a judge.

The bad news as English said, your fingerprints will now come up on a hit list when you go to get your SIDA badge which is the only real kink I can think of right off the bat. It wasn't a violent crime, but they will more than likely report it to your employer. Many employers fingerprint you during your interview. Southwest is one that does, my last employer flying Lears did that too although we were doing a lot of Dept of Defense work.

Good luck!
 
Monster Buck said:
donvag

I won't go into the details of my story but here is a different piece of advice. I Hate when people lie and get away with it BUT DO NOT GO BACK TO COURT, she lied and she will do it again. You will blow alot of money and take a BIG chance of making it worse. I would only go back if she is still coming after you. If not get as far away from her as possible, be more selective to those you date and be thankful that bit$$ didn't get away with more. At this point unless someone at the airline you are applying to says something to HR no one will ever know. If it comes up tell the truth. Sure revenge MAY be possible and COULD be sweet but is it worth her getting away again with lies that do end up on your record and ruin your carreer?
I agree with Monster Buck 100%. You need to stay as far away from this person as possible. Getting involved in further court pissing matches only keeps her in your life longer, which, in a sick way, is probably what she wants. Look into the restraining order issue quietly or have an attorney do it. I don't think they last indefinitely. You'll want it to quietly go away. The other thing is to stop hanging out at places or with people that know her. That includes people that claim to be friends of both of you. If they're still friends with her knowing what is going on then they aren't a friend of yours. Eliminate all contact!
 
Buy/read the book "The Predatory Female"

It should be on every new pilots bookshelf

Later
 

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