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737 Pylt

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No wonder there is such bad relations.....Cut employee pay....Raise employee benefit costs....Cut labor force.....But make sure these pricks in management get their severance! discpicable.....
737

Judge OKs Delta Management Severance Plan
Wednesday February 22, 5:22 pm ET
By Aleksandrs Rozens, AP Business Writer
N.Y. Bankruptcy Judge Approves Delta Air Lines Severance Package for Directors, Officers

NEW YORK (AP) -- A New York bankruptcy judge approved a Delta Air Lines Inc. severance package for directors and officers that is part of a plan to save the carrier $200 million annually.

The airline, which filed for bankruptcy protection in September, had asked for court approval to provide severance for as many as 144 directors and officers.

The carrier does not expect to actually terminate 144 directors and officers, Dan Lewis, spokesman for Delta, told The Associated Press. He said the carrier likely will cut 20 percent of that 144 total, costing Delta $3 million in expenses related to severance payments.

"I don't believe I have any choice but to grant the motion. The debtor has made a very compelling showing on record before me of the need for the severance plan that has been proposed," Judge Adlai Hardin, who is overseeing Delta's bankruptcy, said in granting the carrier's request.

The pilots union, the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), asked the court to reject the Atlanta-based company's severance proposal in light of Delta's request for pilot concessions. An attorney for the pilots, Michael Winston, likened the plan to a "soft landing" for management, and said the carrier's management should have consulted the pilots union about it.

Under the plan, directors and officers would receive six to 12 months of severance pay.

Delta, though, argued the severance plan was meant to stem departures of directors and officers. Lewis told the AP that the carrier has lost six executives to other companies in January and February alone, including a specialist involved with managing the airline's restructuring efforts.

Lewis said the cuts could begin as early as March. If all 144 employees eligible were terminated under the program, the cost to Delta would be $14.2 million, the company has said.

"We are pleased that the judge's ruling recognized the sound business judgment and the sacrifice of everyone at Delta," said Lewis. "We need to move forward with the restructuring of the company."

A spokesman for pilots union expressed disappointment with the judge's decision Wednesday.

"We are disappointed that management appears oblivious to the impact this (severance) program will have on employee morale," said Capt. John Culp.
 
This is par for the course, and just another reason why I will drop Delta like 3rd period French as soon as I have a decent offer from anyone.

March should be an interesting month.
 
737 Pylt,

Your tag line: "History is doing something...Insanity is doing it over and over expecting a different result!"

..needs a qualifier.

Despite my penchant for doing things exactly the same way "over and over", my wife and I do not have 4,276 children.

I might be insane...but she isn't.

You need an asterisk.

[Thread creep? Me?]
 
... Dan Lewis, spokesman for Delta ...

Hunh. Any relation to uber-unionbuster and former Secretary of Transportation Drew Lewis?

I suppose not. Still ...
 
Why don't DL pilots put up a proposal that they will backfill management positions from their own pilot ranks as and when they become empty? That way, you get management pay, management lifestyle and can lead the carrier into mega profits.
 
That 13 million should be the next chunk you all subtract from mgts concession "request". I also love the way the managers love to call themselves "leadership", like they have a clue what that means.

I think my favorite part of the press release was:

"The airline said compensation for its officers and directors had fallen below industry levels and a severance package would help mitigate some of the job insecurities they faced because of the airline's bankruptcy."
 
Leadership is not taught anymore anywhere. I don't know who raised these pukes, but they didn't know the definition either.

Don't take it guys.
 
shon7 said:
Why don't DL pilots put up a proposal that they will backfill management positions from their own pilot ranks as and when they become empty? That way, you get management pay, management lifestyle and can lead the carrier into mega profits.

Another brilliant post from our resident airline pilot wanna be. How much of this bonus are you going to get Mr. private pilot clown?

Run along now. Somewhere out there is a Cessna that needs a run up. and mag check
 
So if the 1113 process can be used to abrogate contracts, why doesn't airline management ever seek to abrogate their management contracts?
 
hoover said:
So if the 1113 process can be used to abrogate contracts, why doesn't airline management ever seek to abrogate their management contracts?

1. Most management drones work under an agreement in the form of a letter from the CEO (or the Chairman of the Board). The letter lays out the compensation, benefits, and other perks that go with the position. The ability to "cancel" or "amend" the terms of the letter are either contained in the letter itself, or implied. Since the letters are issued under federal statute (like the Railway Labor Act), they don't require a court filing to vacate.

2. They do! Not in the same 1113 process they use to attack ours, but like it or not, the fact is most management drones get thwacked in the Chapter 11 process. UAL cut the number of VP's by almost 50%. NWA cut about 66%. DAL cut dozens as well. We tend to focus on the butt-wipes at the top (CEO, CFO, COO, etc) who pillage millions while the rest of us take huge cuts...but more management turds take big hits than those enjoying big boosts.

3. The Bankruptcy Code wasn't written with Labor's interests in mind. It was written by lawyers working for politicians. They made sure nobody could wipe their a$$ in Chapter 11 without 3 motions, 2 writs, and a $500-a-hour consultation with a senior partner in the firm.

4. Life isn't fair.
 
shon7 said:
Why don't DL pilots put up a proposal that they will backfill management positions from their own pilot ranks as and when they become empty? That way, you get management pay, management lifestyle and can lead the carrier into mega profits.

I would do this is a second. The next thing I would do is hire a consulting firm like Bain to tell me what to do, and pay both of us ridiculous amounts of money in bonuses. Can you make this happen for me? I doubt any MGT. will let us blue collar workers in on this scam.
 
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sleeves said:
I would do this is a second. The next thing I would do is hire a consulting firm like Bain to tell me what to do, and pay both of us ridiculous amounts of money in bonuses. Can you make this happen for me? I doubt any MGT. will let us blue collar workers in on this scam.

Amongst contract labor there are very few who even try to get into management ranks -- often citing myriad reasons why they cannot. Its easy to sit and compain -- if things are so bad and you want the company to succeed -- at least attempt to solve the problem in some way.

Yes Mgmt needs to concentrate on generating more revenue and higher yeilds -- but so do agents and flight attendants and pilots by providing better service. At the legacies this is just not happening.

Yes Mgmt needs to concentrate on better labor relations -- but so do the unions which includes giving up non-productive behaviour and work rules.

and the list goes on...
 
Enlighten us

shon7 said:
Yes Mgmt needs to concentrate on better labor relations -- but so do the unions which includes giving up non-productive behaviour and work rules.

and the list goes on...

Please enlighten us on our non-productive behavior and work rules. In case you forgot, our work rules are governed by Federal Regulations. You want to talk productivity? How about scheduling me for 7 hrs of flying a day and I'll work 12 days a month and have the rest of it off. Anything outside of this is unproductive. What other career can you be at work 72 hours a week and be paid for 20?
 

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