Did ATA lose the Gov't Contract?

[Sensei]

OK a little help for the peanut gallery. I've heard that ATA lost the Gov't contract. I've also heard that ATA didn't lose the contract, they just couldn't meet the demand, therefore World Airways was given part of it. I couldn't find anything on the business week website (of course I'm not the crispiest Dorito in the bag) but, can someone set the record straight? Also a little insider opinion of how ATA is looking for the long haul--please!

Thanks

 

[ForgedBlade]

World and Omni both do some of it, but we also have plenty as well. I know I have spent about three of the last four weeks overseas doing the Kuwait shuttle and everyone is busy. Not sure of the contractual specifics, but we know we will be plenty busy.

 

[pipejockey]

I hope you guys get hazard pay for flying in and out of those muslim countrys.

 

[sf340flyer]

On Monday I saw an old NWA 747-?00 on the international ramp in IND. Asked ground they didn't know what it was there for. Another pilot on freq. said they were "helping out ATA bring guys home from the sand box"

 

['72Gremlin]

Troops are now being rotated in and out of the Mid-East for the next 2 months... 130,000 troops out and 110,000 troops in. The military is depending on about 90% of the movements to be taken care of by civilian contractors according to the Air Force Times. I'm sure ATA's gov't contract is well intact...

Now if I can just fill out that 20 page ATA application I just got in the mail...

 

[Thunderchief]

I heard (for the next six months at least) that military flying is more than projected, a lot more...

Whatever that rumor is worth. Been hearing alot about 767's though..

-TC

 

[MachPi]

what's a c-140, anyway?

 

[Tim47SIP]

ATA is well

There are several carriers doing contract work at this time. World has been doing it for years. I don't know if the GAO or who contracts the carriers, but many US carriers help in supporting the troop movements. The USAF may still be using CRAF aircraft due to the volume of troops being moved.

I just wish that I could have been part of that. I remember when I went over in 90 and recently, sat up front with the greatest guys in the world. Strange how ALPA politics seem to disappear when Mother Liberty is involved.

Oh! Sorry, A C-140 is slightly bigger that a C-130, and of course second to a C-150

 

[General Lee]

We also do a lot of Charter work to the Gulf, and I am sure we could have done more with our 11 parked MD-11s----atleast that would have helped pay the daily lease rates we are still paying everyday on them while they sit in the desert. I think 3 of them went to World Airways---which are probably using them to the Gulf right now.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[JetPilot500]

I hope you guys get hazard pay for flying in and out of those muslim countrys.

Popejockey,

I believe your Signature Quote states:

"Those who are truly brave will never live in fear."

And you're worried about hazard pay?!

 

['72Gremlin]

Mach,
A Cessna-140 is taildragger made in the mid '40s... back when General Lee was only a Lieutenant. I have since upgraded to an aircraft made in the late '40s... the KC-135.

 

[jettypeguy]

We also do a lot of Charter work to the Gulf, and I am sure we could have done more with our 11 parked MD-11s----atleast that would have helped pay the daily lease rates we are still paying everyday on them while they sit in the desert. I think 3 of them went to World Airways---which are probably using them to the Gulf right now.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Delta still has 1 MD11 waiting to get scrapped/parted out, thanks to the mechanics burning most of it up rendering it a loss.....

 

[CatfishVT9]

C-140

MachPi,

I'm pretty sure it's the military's 737, but I think it is actually the C-40, not140.

Catfish

 

[CCDiscoB]

Strange how ALPA politics seem to disappear when Mother Liberty is involved.

I don't get this comment. What does that have to do with aircraft going to Kuwait and back?

...I am sure we could have done more with our 11 parked MD-11s----at least that would have helped pay the daily lease rates we are still paying everyday on them while they sit in the desert.

Good point. I wonder why Delta would rather lease their MD-11s rather than fly them themselves?

 

[Neubyfly]

Does this have anything to do with it?http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_flights_020504,00.html

 

[Tim47SIP]

CCD

I don't get this comment. What does that have to do with aircraft going to Kuwait and back?

When you are a regional guy in mainlines jumpseat, conversations are sometimes very one sided. Like constant scolding from the Capt. One time, I got personally blamed for suing the Delta guys. They still think it is us low lifes at ASA WITH NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RJDC that are the problem. While sitting in the same mainline aircraft on the way to the desert, ALPA didn't even come up once. Just a lot of war stories.

 

[juan2go]

C-140

Cessna 140. Two place taildragger, 85 hp cont. engine. Nice ride, babe magnet!

Back to the important stuff.

 

[jstarav8r]

Hey Everybody,

Not that this has anything to do with this thread, but a C-140 is actually the Air Force designation for a Lockheed Jetstar. As pointed out earlier, it also is a Cessna 140.

Good luck to all those waiting for ATA. I understand the emotions. I'm in the AirTran class that keeps getting cancelled and postponed.

Good Luck,

Jetstar Aviator

 

[-9Capt]

"I'm in the AirTran class that keeps getting cancelled and postponed"

That's every AirTran class!!

 

[NAA Pilot]

There is a mild rumor at NAA that ATA has been snooping around and talking with the owner of NAA. Not sure why but thought it interesting.