Delta to give Shuttle the boot?

[Jack Mehoff]

Heard from a backpack toten Shuttle America jumpseater that Delta might send them packing and look for a better ontime operation

 

[flyer172r]

From what I've read on numerous other threads, if Delta would clean up the ramp operations in ATL, everyone's on-time performance would increase.

 

[sweptback]

From what I've read on numerous other threads, if Delta would clean up the ramp operations in ATL, everyone's on-time performance would increase.

Fortunately the Delta ramp operation in ATL is sound. It's the ASA one you have to worry about...

 

[Tomct]

Fortunately the Delta ramp operation in ATL is sound. It's the ASA one you have to worry about...

:laugh:Swept, you get what you pay for......Delta pays their rampers pretty descent compared to the regionals!

 

[atlcrashpad]

Fortunately the Delta ramp operation in ATL is sound. It's the ASA one you have to worry about...

Yo, you means ASA's Ramp not ASA as a whole. It should be, ASA's ramp is a hole. Bouyyyyyyyy...

 

[atrdriver]

From what I've read on numerous other threads, if Delta would clean up the ramp operations in ATL, everyone's on-time performance would increase.

The ASA ramp does not handle the Shuttle flights, they are handled by DAL rampers at DAL gates.

 

[GreatView]

The ASA ramp does not handle the Shuttle flights, they are handled by DAL rampers at DAL gates.

That's right....

 

[bvt1151]

The ASA ramp does not handle the Shuttle flights, they are handled by DAL rampers at DAL gates.

Zing!

 

[Apache 5]

How can Shuttle/Republic/Chautauqua/whatever they are calling themselves these days be consistently late and broke even when they do not have ACARS? Are talking "hours" late? If so, I guess it doesnt matter Acars or not....


Maybe, just maybe, in some far off distant world, companies will be held liable for the service they provide instead of how cheaply they can provide it. Yes, I am a little biased, being the Shuttle/Rep/Chq/ etc etc is about to join us in the wonderful world of Continental... How convenient, no ACARS and EWR- they'll probably be the only on time carrier out of sewark.

 

[BlueCanoe]

RAH Delta system numbers: 83.6% on-time and 99% completion factor. Read into it what you want...

 

[jobear]

S5 does have acars just no printer or weather $$$

 

[TAWS]

You guys never stop............the DOT stats for June '06 say it all.

Lowest on time arrivals = ASA 63.5%, Mesa 63.7%
Out of 8 most frequently delayed flights, 6 were Comair, 1 Eagle and 1 XJT
Highest rates of canx flights = Mesa 5%, XJT 3.9%, Eagle 3.7%

Overall in the industry = 72.8% on time

We may not be the best, but for ASA guys to get on here and mouth off about S5 is laughable! Even mainline carriers have on time problems, theirs are not as obvious as the regionals, due to frequency and block time considerations. When the Airbus was new, it had plenty of dispatch probs, now it's one of the mainstays of most fleets. Likewise, the E170 has qwerky probs that are getting ironed out.
The CRJ is a proven product, but pax hate it!! DAL won't drop the E170, as performance is improving each month and pax love it! RAH oversold the 170 performance to DAL and UAL, but as block times/fuel burn expectations are being adjusted all the time, each carrier is getting happier with the product.

 

[relief tube]

Hey Jack,
so we're taking seriously the cockpit talk of backpack-toting jumpseaters?
Enough to make some stupid post here?

If that'd be true, then Airways would be liquidated, Comair woulda been bought by Mesa, and Peidmont would have jets by now.

This board's full of enough rumors and half-truths, but this isnt even worth mentioning. There's a Fisher Price tea-time table out there with a bunch of 12 year-old girls that would love to have you there to discuss more useless gossip.

 

[flyer172r]

Fortunately the Delta ramp operation in ATL is sound. It's the ASA one you have to worry about...

My bad, didn't realize there were seperate ramps. Whenever I go into ATL it's on the much smaller American ramp, so I just pass by the overall Delta area and wonder how they survive.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Out of 8 most frequently delayed flights, 6 were Comair, 1 Eagle and 1 XJT

Lemme guess, all those flight are to LGA, EWR, or ORD?

Anyways S5 isn't going anywhere they. Yea pax don't really like the ERJ or CRJ but if you want to fly out of Kalamazoo, Southbend, Charelston W. Va, etc....too bad, jsut be glad they haven't dusted off some E-120's and started using them again. You can't fly a 70 seater into a bunch of these places, they won't fill up.

 

[bvt1151]

Lemme guess, all those flight are to LGA, EWR, or ORD?

ATL, LGA, and JFK. All ATC reasons except for Atlanta, which was due to ASA ramp.

Chautauqua may have higher numbers, but the busiest airport they fly out of consistently for Delta is CVG, and Comair still had better numbers out of that airport.

 

[Popeye0537]

How can Shuttle/Republic/Chautauqua/whatever they are calling themselves these days be consistently late and broke even when they do not have ACARS? Are talking "hours" late? If so, I guess it doesnt matter Acars or not....


Maybe, just maybe, in some far off distant world, companies will be held liable for the service they provide instead of how cheaply they can provide it. Yes, I am a little biased, being the Shuttle/Rep/Chq/ etc etc is about to join us in the wonderful world of Continental... How convenient, no ACARS and EWR- they'll probably be the only on time carrier out of sewark.

A little biased....LOL I'd say you sound Bitter. Look at the numbers before you embarass youself with comments like this.

 

[bvt1151]

A little biased....LOL I'd say you sound Bitter. Look at the numbers before you embarass youself with comments like this.

Wasn't Chautauqua fined several years ago for incorrect time reporting?

 

[Popeye0537]

Not that I can recall.......fined by whom?

 

[shamrock]

Yea pax don't really like the ERJ or CRJ but if you want to fly out of Kalamazoo, Southbend, Charelston W. Va, etc....too bad, jsut be glad they haven't dusted off some E-120's and started using them again.

I had to stifle a laugh when we had a passenger ranting about the seats on the CRJ as he got off his one hour, direct fight from ATL to Meridian, Mississippi.

 

[hbrow15]

Lemme guess, all those flight are to LGA, EWR, or ORD?

Anyways S5 isn't going anywhere they. Yea pax don't really like the ERJ or CRJ but if you want to fly out of Kalamazoo, Southbend, Charelston W. Va, etc....too bad, jsut be glad they haven't dusted off some E-120's and started using them again. You can't fly a 70 seater into a bunch of these places, they won't fill up.

hit the nail on the head, pax loved ERJ's/CRJ's when they first hit the market also because they hated props. Fact is pax can B!tch all they want, the airlines are not listening because at the end of the the day they will still fly because the ticket is cheap.

 

[bvt1151]

Not that I can recall.......fined by whom?

Either the FAA or the DOT. It was pretty hush-hush. Bulk of violations in MCO.

 

[fieldinsight]

Either the FAA or the DOT. It was pretty hush-hush. Bulk of violations in MCO.

If it was either FAA or DOT, it wasn't "hush hush", and can easily be found on eithers website if you do a search. I'd suggest you do so instead of spreading rumor.

 

[Popeye0537]

Come on bvt, your comair....you of all people should know the details even if they were "hush hush".

 

[bvt1151]

Hey, I asked if they were. Word from MCO ops was that they were fined. Just trying to verify.

 

[Apache 5]

RAH Delta system numbers: 83.6% on-time and 99% completion factor. Read into it what you want...

Not when you start showing up in EWR.....whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Yeah, I'm real embarrassed....who gives a flying f- anyway...pilots vs pilots and a race to the f ing bottom..

 

[Popeye0537]

Not when you start showing up in EWR.....whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Yeah, I'm real embarrassed....who gives a flying f- anyway...pilots vs pilots and a race to the f ing bottom..

We already do for AA, I love sittin in the Lindy pad....cha ching!

 

[8HourPilot]

Up to almost 3 pages, nicely played my man.

 

[Wheres the van?]

Chqs completion factor is also a complete lie! Heard it from the blue juice guy.