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CHICAGO, July 19 (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines (DAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , struggling to secure major cost cuts to avoid a possible bankruptcy, on Monday posted a $2 billion quarterly loss due to a spike in fuel prices and a one-time charge related mostly to taxes.

But shares of the No. 3 U.S. carrier rose 8 percent as the company said it had more than $2 billion in cash and was making progress in identifying ways to cut costs.

"The hole we must fill is considerably deeper today than it was a year ago, and the hole grows deeper every day," Chief Executive Gerald Grinstein said in a conference call in which he emphasized the need for "bold and decisive initiatives."

"The changes we make must be structural and permanent," he said.

Grinstein said the company review he launched in January, which he is expected to complete by late August, is in the final planning stages.

The Atlanta-based carrier said its second-quarter loss was $1.96 billion, or $15.79 a share, including the charge. A year earlier, it reported a profit of $184 million, or $1.40 a share, including a hefty one-time government aid payment.

Delta took a $1.65 billion non-cash charge in the quarter -- $1.53 billion related to deferred income taxes and $117 million related to its pilot pension plan as more pilots than usual retired.

Grinstein said the cumulative weight of pressures facing the airline grows heavier every day.

Fuel prices spiked 54 percent in the quarter while yields, or average fares, continued to erode. Delta, which has had six credit rating downgrades since May 2003, faces increasing competition from low-cost rivals and said it does not expect a revenue recovery any time soon.

Delta is in the midst of negotiations with its pilots, its only major union and the highest-paid pilots in the industry. The union plans to present a new proposal of concessions to management soon, and the head of the union told Reuters recently he was looking to increase pilot productivity.

WORKING TOWARD CHANGE

Delta formed a new seven-member leadership team during the quarter after seeing its top three executives replaced this year. Plans aimed at turning its finances around have resulted in $1.8 billion in benefits over the past 18 months.

Analysts called the results good relative to expectations, but poor overall.

"You've got a guy at the top now who is hands on, so I firmly believe that the problems are being dealt with," said industry consultant Michael Boyd of the Boyd Group. "The pilot group is pretty loyal to their company, and they'll make something happen."

Excluding the charge, Delta's loss was $312 million, or $2.55 a share. Analysts expected a loss of $2.41 a share, according to Reuters Estimates.

Without the federal aid, Delta's year-ago loss was $237 million, or $1.95 a share.

Delta ended the quarter with $2.3 billion in cash, of which $2 billion was unrestricted. Wall Street has kept a close eye on the carrier's cash position, given many analysts expect Delta to run into a liquidity crisis by fall or winter if it cannot slash costs dramatically.

Delta also said it has amended an existing third-party financing agreement. The deal resulted in an incremental $150 million of liquidity and a refinancing of $230 million of secured debt originally due in 2006.

The carrier said it expects fuel costs to be about $680 million higher this year than in 2003, with $510 million of the increase due to higher oil prices.

"People expected the news to be worse, and it came out about in line with what it's been the last few quarters," said Alan Sbarra, transportation management consultant at Unisys R2A. Ray Neidl, analyst at Blaylock & Partners, called the stock's move higher a selling opportunity. Delta shares closed up 44 cents, or 8 percent, at $5.94 on the New York Stock Exchange after jumping as high as $6.35 earl
 
Our Cash postion has gone up--from $1.8 billion to $2 billion unrestricted ($2.3 billion restricted) and we had an operating PROFIT of $57 million after all of the operating bills were paid. The loss stems from some debt payments and depreciation. There will be a pilot deal done soon, and then the creditors will chip in. Our bond ratings will rise quickly, and then we will refinance the debt with the help of the capital markets---just like AA did the day after they got concessions from their unions. This is all calculated--except those darn fuel prices! ( I am glad we sold the fuel hedges early when we didn't have to...)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General,

I almost dropped my laptop after reading your response, I was laughing so hard. "This is all calculated." Bravo my friend, Bravo.

Tis like putting Whipped Cream on Sh!t!!!

respectfully (since we're all in this together).
Mookie
 
Mookie,


The losses aren't calculated--but I bet the responses in the media are--since Malone and Grinstein talk once a week and have had dinner together two or three times. I bet they know what they have to do to get this thing rolling again---they do not have a confrontational relationship. That is what I mean.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
The headlines on Yahoo are the most bizarre I've ever seen:

Delta posts $2B Loss, Shares Rise

I don't think we'll see that headline a 2nd time.....yeeesh!
 
DAL credit rating downgraded

DAL stock has dropped 10% this morning on news of credit rating cut again. JP Morgan and S&P have also downgraded the stock. How long can both sides hold out until BK.
 
Flaps30,


Expect a huge bond rating increase the minute a pilot deal is announced. That rating jump will jump three or four places up. But, right now atleast--the media is showing all losses and there hasn't been an agreement---so I would also expect a downgrade...

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
satpak77,

I guess you're trying to be funny. As soon as a pilot deal is ok'd(probably by the end of AUG?), then the media will jump on it, and then the bond rating agencies (like Fitch) will likely see that Delta has a better chance to recover---thus giving a bond rating increase. We are currently in the junk status---and that can only go up... Thanks for your great wishes.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
negativo

bro i was just asking when can we expect some news

i don't see any "joking" around in my post or humor, just 3 sentences that end in a question mark

sorry if my post caused any grief

:confused:

as far as "great wishes" I didnt pro-wish or anti-wish anything in my post

:confused: :confused: :confused:

however I do wish DAL well, I have some friends there and at the end of the day, whether your jet is painted brown and orange, red/white/blue, red and silver, all brown, purple, etc, the men and women at XYZ company are mom's and dad's with kids in soccer practice and payments due on the Mini-Van. We don't need more airline liquidations, lay offs, or pension plans destroyed.

I truly wish this (once very great) industry recovers.

Sorry General

take care
 
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Satpak77,

No, I was being the jerk. You were just asking questions. I think there will be an offer soon and we should know something by the end of AUG according to Grinstein. I think the pay cut will be in the 30% range--maybe a little higher. It seems like Dalpa will give a bunch back--and it will be interesting to see what comes out of all this. I think Grinstein and Dalpa are on relatively good terms. We shall see. Sorry about the harsh tone before--take care.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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The next offer was made---$705 million in savings annually. (I made the thread on the Majors section)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
roger

roger the previous traffic

today is a new day, lets move forward

good luck to DAL (and the industry)

later
 
I don't really know. I bet the final deal will be close to 30%. If they want to squable over $50-100 million more a year and don't want to take any more money from the non-union people---then it may not happen period. I hope it does and we can go forward again....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Mookie said:
General,

I almost dropped my laptop after reading your response, I was laughing so hard. "This is all calculated." Bravo my friend, Bravo.

Tis like putting Whipped Cream on Sh!t!!!

respectfully (since we're all in this together).
Mookie
Mook,

I'm still trying to locate some stickers. The CPO is always out of tehm when I'm up there and my "in" was transferred to another part of the company to finish his internship. :)

Tailwinds...
 
General Lee said:
I don't really know. I bet the final deal will be close to 30%. If they want to squable over $50-100 million more a year and don't want to take any more money from the non-union people---then it may not happen period. I hope it does and we can go forward again....
It will happen. DAL ALPA's only choice is whether they make a deal outside of Chapter 11 or whether they gamble on what the judge rams down their throat in Chapter 11. One way or the other, DAL pilots are going to take a pay cut.
 
Vc10,


I don't think there was ever a question to whether we would or would not take a pay cut. We all knew it was coming. But, right now there are higher powers at play here--in a tug of war against the creditors to also chip in. Malone and Grinstein are actually on the same side here.......

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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