Delta RFP awarded....

[goodpilotithink]

so have I.

are you saying you know what is best for me more than I do? you seem to think you know a lot about me. guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

now guess which one?

This is one of the idiots who drank the koolaid. He must think Delta pays skywest the same to operate a 700 and a 100-200.

Delta pays MORE because their are MORE seats. What a concept!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[goodpilotithink]

Oh excuse me while I puke! Over 1000 Delta pilots and many more flight attendants lost their jobs while they were handed to Comair. Comair took over $1 billion of new and larger RJs! They faught hard to take that flying, they could not give a $hit what that meant to us! We have pilots that are still out of a job 5 years later. Comair also filed a huge lawsuit to try to grab more of Delta mainline flying, and faught to keep the furloughed Delta pilots from coming over there. I do not have any sympathy for these group of people. When they are able to rape you, they will do it gladly and say it's not their fault! When they are losing jets, jobs and flying, they are a bunch of whinners! Enjoy unemployment! You all deserve it!

What an idiot. lol. WE TRIED TO COMBINE OUR LIST WITH DELTA PER ALPA POLICY!!AND WE WERE TOLD TO POUND SAND. NONE OF THE FULOUGHS WOULD OF HAPPENEED IF YOU GUYS WERE NOT SO SELF SERVING.
WE AGREED THEY SHOULD HAVE PREFERENTIAL INTERVIEWS!!! YOU JUST WANTED TO WALK IN LIKE YOU BELONGED HERE. WE WERE NEVER OFFERED JOBS AT DELTA JUST BECAUSE. WHAT A BUNCH OF SELF SERVING IDIOTS.

Thats all I got to say about that

 

[thebest]

Comair is in BANKRUPTCY COURT! The COURT has taken away their rights. That can be appealed. There is a legal process. And as far as I know, Comair ALPA has no influence over Delta management. ALPA can't make Delta management's decisions. Do you know something I don't?

When I said "I just don't get it." I meant your intense ideology.

FedEx is gravy, huh? What induces FedEx management to pay top wages? Benevolence?

As far as my point about UAL: YOU asked how ALPA helped UAL. I explained the situation (Massive terrorist attack, world-wide economic downturn... remember?). ALPA had no leverage since UAL filed Ch 11. You want to know how ALPA remedied the situation?! What the fck do you think ALPA, or SAPA, or anybody else could do for those pilots? So to make my point, I suggested SAPA could do no better.

I feel like I'm being condescending having to explain my points to you like this. It's not because I WANT to explain things to you like you're a child. It's because I feel like I HAVE to.

Hey thanks for your help. You summed it up..."what the fck do you think alpa, or SAPA or anybody else could do for those pilots?" alpa can't do anything anyway, so why keep paying 2% for nothing?
ps- other "FEELINGS" you have, go tell a doctor, I don't really care......

 

[thebest]

YA GRAVY!
http://www.willflyforfood.cc/Payscales/FedExPay.htm

 

[BigLebowski]

I think skynation epitomizes the problem with this industry. Who cares what he's costing everybody else just so he can get his "QOL." It all comes back to Skywest.

Are you really as dumb as you sound? Let me guess...if SkyWest was ALPA none of this would be happening.

 

[BigLebowski]

Sure did. I liked the fact that a union wasn't necessary. But relations went downhill fast after the "deal Capt. Holt an ace" BS. I was here then. Were you?

Were you aware that ALPA was voted down by less than 50 votes in 2000? Were you aware that UPA failed narrowly in 2005 despite a shoestring budget against the deep pockets of Skywest Inc?

Not every airline needs a union. Had SW continued to act ethically, this wouldn't be an issue.

You know if you had worked for an ALPA carrier before coming to SkyWest you wouldn't be complaining. ALPA will do no good for SkyWest. Just look at all the other regionals that have ALPA...they're doing so great, what a help they are.
I'll invest 2% more in my 401K for a while rather than give it to ALPA and see who comes out on top.

 

[jayme]

You mean like coex, comair, airwis? There are pilots making more money than us at companies that are not doing as well. That is a direct result of unions. As long as we continue to put our earnings potential in the hands of management, we will always be underpaid.

I was with Teamsters at my last airline. It sucked. But I'm not so simple-minded to blame the union for all of the airlines problems.

SAPA has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are incapable of getting us fair compensation for the 70 and 90 seat jets. It's time to negotiate with leverage. ALPA has the resources to help us smoothly transition into a united workforce.

 

[i fly boxes]

I will tell you why you people at Skywest need a union. YOU ARE MAKING 19 PER HOUR TO FLY A JET THE SIZE OF A DC9!!!!!!!!! Your company is making MILLIONS. They gave you a whopping 20 cent raise so now it is 19.25 per hour?

Alpa carriers have had some rough times but I believe you will see a chance in 2007, starting with Pinnacle's Contract. I am so impressed with the way our union has handled NWA's Bankruptcy and now we have them where we want them

 

[Texx]

Comair is in BANKRUPTCY COURT! The COURT has taken away their rights.

What rights?

Did someone, or company, take CMR ALPA to court and ask the court to ban them from self help?

 

[LearLove]

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/01/03/ap3296081.html?partner=alerts


wonderful - more outsourcing, when will it stop.

 

[LearLove]

the first thing is all under one list. no more contracting out. if you fly an aircraft with x airlines paint on it then your on that airlines list, period dot end of discussion. then we can start working on the other stuff. unless this happens first nothing else will be able to be fixed in our career.

Associated Press
Analyst Sees Republic Airways-Delta Deal
Associated Press 01.03.07, 3:49 PM ET

Shares of Republic Airways Holdings Inc. rose Wednesday, after a Calyon Securities Inc. analyst said he thinks it's likely that the small carrier will soon reach a new flying services agreement with Delta Air Lines Inc.
Shares added 94 cents, or 5.6 percent, to $17.72 in afternoon trading on the Nasdaq with more than twice the usual volume.
Analyst Ray Neidl in a client note said it is likely that Republic in early 2007 will reach a new agreement for regional flying services with Delta Air Lines.
"This contract has been in a state of limbo since Delta entered bankruptcy in 2005, through which the legacy carrier had the right to accept or reject the contract," wrote Neidl.
In the past, Republic has estimated that changes in its agreement with Delta could cost Republic between $7 million to $10 million in annual revenue, the analyst wrote, but he expects any changes to be "manageable."
The contract is likely to include a slightly smaller margin guarantee, but importantly, it means the two companies' relationship will continue, added Neidl.
"Once the new Delta contract is concluded, it will give investors added confidence in the company for longer-term earnings and cash flow predictability," the analyst wrote, keeping a "Buy" rating on shares of Republic. He lifted his target price to $23 from $20.
For the rest of the airline industry, Neidl in another client note said he expects the sector to earn $2.3 billion in 2006, compared to a loss of $5.9 billion in 2005. Strong fundamentals for the industry, coupled with merger and acquisition activity, are likely to make 2007 another turnaround year for airlines, the analyst wrote.
"Our recommendation, despite the strong rise in 2006 in airline stock prices, is that investors should become aggressive in this sector for at least the first half of 2007," the analyst added.

Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed

 

[Skyward]

You mean like coex, comair, airwis? There are pilots making more money than us at companies that are not doing as well. That is a direct result of unions. As long as we continue to put our earnings potential in the hands of management, we will always be underpaid.

I was with Teamsters at my last airline. It sucked. But I'm not so simple-minded to blame the union for all of the airlines problems.

SAPA has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are incapable of getting us fair compensation for the 70 and 90 seat jets. It's time to negotiate with leverage. ALPA has the resources to help us smoothly transition into a united workforce.

By coex did you mean Expressjet or Republic?

 

[flyer172r]

What rights?

Did someone, or company, take CMR ALPA to court and ask the court to ban them from self help?

No, management asked the court to ban the pilots from self help once they won the right to throw out the pilot contract. That's who the real enemy is here, people.

 

[Superpilot92]

By coex did you mean Expressjet or Republic?

 

[Texx]

No, management asked the court to ban the pilots from self help once they won the right to throw out the pilot contract.

No, they are two different things. Just because CMR won the right to impose their own contract doesn't mean that CMR asked the court to prevent the pilots from striking. If I'm correct, there was talk about it but CMR did not follow through with it.