Delta asked to leave Dallas Love Field

[tzskipper]

Not really my debate, nor to stir the pot, but about "harming a competitor"? I think the ATA guys and gals, and maybe even the Muse folks would have a different opinion of how SWA rolls. If I remember history correctly (from ATA friends), a certain CEO was brought in during ATA's bk, and subsequently (essentially) "gutted" ATA's mdw operation, canceling city pair after city pair. SWA then acquired the gates that ATA had held and operated from at MDW, by agreeing to a lease transfer as part of a forgiveness of a loan made from SWA to ATA during this time. Imo, I doubt the loan was given simply because SWA was a benevolent company wanting to help ATA.... As an aside, ATA's CEO at the time had previously worked for SWA as a CFO(?). Also, as a parting gift, I believe the ATA CEO was also given a seat on the SWA BOD after ending his ATA role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Denison

Btw, SWA did actually acquire ATA and it's certificate in order to transfer the LGA slots that ATA held and then retired the certificate back to the FAA.

Back to life.

S

 

[FlyinGuy]

Flop is just mad because SWA ran them out of Houston!!

 

[Flopgut]

We announced interstate service, and actually commenced it, as the other airlines and DFW attacked again

You need to replace DFW with City of Ft Worth. And while a lot of the lawsuits were dismissed, Love Field has always had restrictions, so you haven't won. And it is because of Ft Worth's opposition that this has prevailed. That has been the piece de resistance.

 

[HowardBorden]

I'm saying Love Field always has had, always will have, limitations.

If Love has always had limitations, where exactly were the 6,000,000+ passengers going in 1973 when it was the 8th busiest US airport? San Antonio?

 

[humveedriver]

Delta wants to enhance its "shuttle" product. Love field fits that business model. They can spend some money to try to get access to those gates. I doubt they are losing a ton of sleep over it.

 

[waveflyer]

Your word count is ridiculous.

That's MY line trademarked with bubba.
It's also a thinly veiled excuse not to argue with him.

 

[General Lee]

That's MY line trademarked with bubba.
It's also a thinly veiled excuse not to argue with him.

I actually read Bubba's posts when I need to get some sleep, especially overseas. It usually takes 3-4 paragraphs of his normal diatribes.

As far as this Love Field deal goes, I don't know another non slot controlled airport that is willing to turn away competition. Sure, space or gates is a tight commodity sometimes, but one gate? Not one "multi-use" gate? I used to brag that SWA couldn't get into ATL, but there was always the ability to get at least one gate, SWA just wanted MORE back then, and that just wasn't possible. JetBlue and other carriers tried some ATL service, but pulled out when they couldn't expand. DL tried to get the VA gates and expand at Love, but after losing that battle, couldn't even get one multi-use gate other airlines could also try to share? Really? That's NUTS! 5 daily 717 flights to ATL. I bet SWA could have gotten 5 daily 737 flights to MDW from ATL back before the AT merger.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flopgut]

That's MY line trademarked with bubba.
It's also a thinly veiled excuse not to argue with him.

Yeah, well, more and more it's become obvious it's his coping mechanism for not being able to prove his point. He's filibustering.

 

[Flopgut]

If Love has always had limitations, where exactly were the 6,000,000+ passengers going in 1973 when it was the 8th busiest US airport? San Antonio?

Pre DFW airport!? We've now fallen into context oblivion... I'm sure partially my fault.

You've got nothing more for this. You have a perspective and so do I. I have history and reality, you have a huge propaganda effort that wants to re write everything. In 25 years you'll all be arguing that you actually never did work without a pension or for abjectly low pay rate.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Your word count is ridiculous.

That's because I actually explain things, and present timelines, dates, and facts. You "argue" by throwing out punchlines and BS generalizations, then just deny everything else.

STILL waiting for you to actually show that anything I posted was wrong, or for you to give a single, real example of any of the crap you claim. You've never, ever done either.

Bubba