Deice Question

[fly2002]

Hey guys/gals..what's the cost of Type 1 fluid per gallon roughly?
(Sound of final jeopardy in background).....
THX

 

[jarhead]

I don't know the actual cost per gallon, but I suspect the stuff is diluted, much like anti-freeze in your car radiator. Also, I believe the run off on that stuff is required by federal EPA laws to be collected, and not be allowed to run off to sewar systems or ground water. If it is collected, I would imagine that it can be re-used. Like any commodity, the price per gallon will vary depending on amount purchased, and contracts for it.

Never mind Alex Trebec. Where's Cliff Claven when you need him?

 

[pireps]

Straight type I runs usually $7-15 a gallon. Mostly it's diluted to 50/50 with water and then heated.

 

[pireps]

Also, everywhere I've ever de-iced the stuff just runs off and is diluted by rainwater eventually. I am not aware of an EPA collection program.

 

[IP076]

De-iced a Van down in OMA about a month ago. They charged $11/gallon for the Type I fluid at Tac-Air (The FBO in OMA).

Oh yeah, it took the line guys 88 gallons to De-Ice a rather iced up Van. In a hurry, didn't have much choice.

There was also a bit of risidual ice on certain non protected parts. 3" on the radome.....

 

[Tug Driver]

I think that Jarhead is correct. I believe that is why most airports have a specific deicing pad. However, if you just reuse the old collected fluid, then the company who produces glycol would not make any money. I have never heard of this pratice.

Those price ranges sound accurate.

 

[DTWFO]

In Detroit Northwest uses remote de-ice pads that have collection drains where the run-off is collected. They can separate the glycol from the water and then use it again. I also heard that Detroit collects and reuses more de-icer than any other airport (in the US).

 

[ProLine4]

Type 1

Type 1 goes for about $10 a gallon, and Approved Type 1 can go right down the drain. Oh yeah, don't ever spray Type 1 below it's designated temp range (usually around 160-180 F)...its useless. While working line, I had a pilot request cold Type 1 one time because he was in a hurry and couldnt wait for the heat-up.....ok man, your call....20 min later,what a messy and expensive mistake.

 

[gnx99]

The de-ice pads at MSP have collection systems

 

[atldc9]

A few years ago, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation sucessfully sued the Maryland Aviation Administration in federal court over the runoff of Deiceing fluid. It is considered a hazmat of sorts, and ever since they won the case, airports have been required to collect the runoff. Next time your in ATL, look at the above-ground-swimming-pool-looking-things near the tower. All full of deicing fluid runoff.

 

[atldc9]

Here's a link to BWI's program for recycling/collecting deice fluid...

http://www.marylandaviation.com/images/deicing_timelineLG.jpg