Definition of "Duty" per FAR/GOM ? ?

[Skull-One]

Anyone care to explain to me what the definition of "DUTY" or "ON DUTY" is?

For example:

"Flight crew must not use any alcoholic beverages during the twelve hours preceding duty or during time of duty."

WTH does this mean? Are they saying that you can't drink a beer on an overnight? A lot of folks have told me that if you are drawing per diem you are technically on-duty. How can that be?

???

 

[Rick1128]

In accordance with the FARs on an overnight you are not on duty. However, many companies have made definitions that if you are representing the company, you are in a 'duty' state and must abstain from alcohol. It is my understanding that American and Northwest have these rules in their GOM.

Drawing per diem doesn't really have anything to do with it. The drawing of per diem just shows that you are representing the company.

 

[Skull-One]

Interesting.......

So, being in a bar in civilian clothes makes one's company liable for any potential misconduct if one is collecting per diem (or on an overnight), correct?

 

[POKEY]

The way I see it, I am on duty 45 min prior to dep. time and off duty 15 min. after we block in, period. Some company's policies about being on duty for the whole trip in nonsense. If I am not in uniform, I am not representing the company.

 

[Rick1128]

Many companies have put these type of rules in place because of problems in the past. And if you work for them you follow their rules. If you can't then get another job.

As for not representing the company. Get drunk on an overnight and get arrested and see what the local newspaper headlines will read.

"DRUNK AIRLINE PILOT ARRESTED"

No matter if you were in civies or not.

 

[avbug]

You are on duty any time you are assigned for duty, or are expected to be available for duty. If you are in a rest period following duty, you are not on duty.

However, you are still in a position to be considered representative of the company when in the field, and should exercise discretion.

You are still subject to throttle to bottle regulation as well as BAC regulation, at such time you do report for duty.

If you are flying a scheduled operation, your duty period is your assigned duty, and any transportation not local in charactor prior to the start of your duty. (Transportation following duty isn't duty, but also doesn't count for a rest period).