DCI down to 4 carriers.

[RiddleEagle18]

So for all of the connection carriers out there. Delta has said they intend to bring the number down to 4 or 5 from 9 carriers. So who goes next?

 

[XPOO]

SkyWest and ASA have secured long-term contracts, and I would guess that Comair is safe. That leaves one or two companies after the dust settles. My money is on Republic and Expressjet.

 

[wms]

ASA's contract is only secure as long as we make our 3 and 5 year performance goals which is why there has been the big push for performance recently. Other than that ASA and SKYW have long-term contracts secured in BK court.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

For once I feel that Comair is in a good position which probably means we are next to get axed.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

SkyWest and ASA have secured long-term contracts, and I would guess that Comair is safe. That leaves one or two companies after the dust settles. My money is on Republic and Expressjet.

Why would you put your money on the two carriers that consistantly have the highest completion factors, on time, D-0, and baggage?

 

[greenlight]

Comair - redistribute the airplanes to the surviving DCI carriers (park as many of the 50's as they want to lower capacity) and package for sale the ground handling and MRO business as Comair Aviation.

Generates some much needed revenue for DAL, lowers the 50 seat count, and reduces the complexity of the DCI system.

As a bonus, Comair is wholly (sp?) owned and has no protection from it happening, no messy lawsuits etc.

Comair alumni, hate to see it happen but the handwriting is on the wall. Good luck.

 

[SBD]

Comair - redistribute the airplanes to the surviving DCI carriers (park as many of the 50's as they want to lower capacity) and package for sale the ground handling and MRO business as Comair Aviation.

Generates some much needed revenue for DAL, lowers the 50 seat count, and reduces the complexity of the DCI system.

As a bonus, Comair is wholly (sp?) owned and has no protection from it happening, no messy lawsuits etc.

Comair alumni, hate to see it happen but the handwriting is on the wall. Good luck.

Naw, DL will use Comair to whip against the remaining companies to see who wants to still be part of DCI.

 

[XPOO]

Why would you put your money on the two carriers that consistantly have the highest completion factors, on time, D-0, and baggage?

Just a hunch.

 

[USCtrojan]

SkyWest and ASA have secured long-term contracts, and I would guess that Comair is safe. That leaves one or two companies after the dust settles. My money is on Republic and Expressjet.

I'd say ExpressJet and Peanuckle.

Trojan

 

[McNugent]

Why you say Pinncale? All I keep hearing is Delta is pissed at them. I'd think RP/S5 is in a better long term position than 9E.

 

[USCtrojan]

Why you say Pinncale? All I keep hearing is Delta is pissed at them. I'd think RP/S5 is in a better long term position than 9E.

Those were just my opinion Nuge. Based on Peanuckle's performance, I'd say they got the axe. Plus their involvement is very small comparatively. From what I was told the BK judge awarded them that flying because they were the cheapest....You get what you pay for. As far as I know, DL didn't want them added. ExpressJet is just a guess based on their Contract with Delta. It's the easiest to terminate as far as I know. If they indeed are paying for their own fuel out of LAX, it would probably be a blessing for them!

Trojan

 

[sweptback]

Delta kinda screwed themselves by expanding the DCI network only to say they want to reduce it just a few months later.

I would imagine the carriers that will stay will be the ones with the most aircraft invested into the DCI network. If I was a Pinnacle with only 15 or so CR9s I might be a little worried, especially how eager Delta seems to be with reducing the number of carriers. Given how terrible Pinnacle's numbers are it wouldn't be surprising to see them cancel the contract and move the airplanes elsewhere.

CHQ is about to lose the 135s, which is a significant portion of the DL flying they do (not sure how many 145s they operate for DL). I might be worried except for the deal to swap 170s for 175s at S5. I don't think DL was ever happy with the fuel burn of the 170s and this is a trial to see if the additional revenue of the first class seats offsets the extra cost over the CRJ-900s.

ExpressJet has a short-term contract with DL (I believe it's 2 years). They run a quality airline and have good numbers, but it's pretty common knowledge that DL is only using the LAX RJ operation as a placeholder to keep their gates. Once DL has a mainline plan in place to utilize their gates out there, I would think that ExpressJet might not get renewed. If they did, it would be a fully risk-sharing program like how half of their operation is currently.

I don't understand the choice to cancel only the 50-seat flying at Freedom, but keep the 76-seat flying intact. If it's truely a performance issue, one would think that the numbers on the CR9 would be as bad as the numbers on the 145. Maybe they were just looking for a way out of the 50-seat routes that Freedom flies that are bleeding cash?

Here's my prediction: Comair, ASA, SkyWest, and Shuttle America. The F8/9E CR9s are divided up between OH and EV, and RP trades in their remaining 145s for some extra 175s at S5.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Comair - redistribute the airplanes to the surviving DCI carriers (park as many of the 50's as they want to lower capacity) and package for sale the ground handling and MRO business as Comair Aviation.

Generates some much needed revenue for DAL, lowers the 50 seat count, and reduces the complexity of the DCI system.

As a bonus, Comair is wholly (sp?) owned and has no protection from it happening, no messy lawsuits etc.

Comair alumni, hate to see it happen but the handwriting is on the wall. Good luck.

If they were going to do it, why wouldn't they have done it now instead of taking the aircraft from freedom? Mesa is going to fight this and it will result in legal fee's.

Apparently there was interest in Comair when Delta was thinking about selling it. So it could generate cash in the future for a merger or what not.

 

[JECKEL]

Straight from Comair HR yesterday ... Comair just got a bump up in flying for the fall with DCI, probably because of the Mesa thing or something yet to happen, and have a lot of new hire training slots to fill in the next three months.
Now we shall see if they can fill those positions.

 

[TristarJS30]

I bet they can and will fill them if some positive news about this place comes out. And I mean press statements from Delta and Comair about positive news, not just word of mouth "Come to Comair, we're supposed to get more flying!" type stuff. I'm all for it. The more flying we get, the faster I move up the list.

 

[bailout]

Im sure ASA and SKW count as 1 of the 4, not 2.

 

[atlcrashpad]

SKYW + ASA = Juan Big Happi Family........ Yeah Bouyyyyyyyyyyy......

 

[i fly boxes]

Pinnacle is in a new hub, new airline, and a new plane(although same aircraft type) I remember chautauqua starting off with continental was horrible as well. As Pinnacle Gets used to ATL, the performance will go up and I expect them to be one of the DCI connection airlines left when its all said and done.

 

[SBD]

I predict that no one here knows anything about what management is going to do.

 

[USCtrojan]

I predict that no one here knows anything about what management is going to do.

Good prediction.

Trojan