Cudjoe accident

[AngelKing]

A plane hit the tether of the Aerostat at Cudjoe Key in the Florida Keys last night killing three people. I work around that site, knew it was going to happen one day.


AK

 

[landlover]

A plane hit the tether of the Aerostat at Cudjoe Key in the Florida Keys last night killing three people. I work around that site, knew it was going to happen one day.


AK

is that the weather balloon just east of keywest?

 

[CA1900]

Sad accident. They really should mark hazards like that on the map. Maybe even make it a restricted area.

 

[AngelKing]

Sad accident. They really should mark hazards like that on the map. Maybe even make it a restricted area.

Yes the ballon east of Key West. It is not a weather ballon. It is an Air Force radar platform.

I fly down here everyday. Amazing how many people try to fly through that area and approach has to vector them away.


AK

 

[The_Russian]

Holy crap! Thats pretty scary and very sad. I have done that route around 1000 times from MIA and FLL.

They are clearly marked on charts and GPS. However, it is easy to forget about them when cruisin' the keys.

 

[Fearless Tower]

If someone knows anything different, please correct me, but according to the message I saw from NAS Key West, the pilot was under 'direct control' of Miami Center at the time of the accident. To me that implies that not only was he in communication with ATC, but he was IFR as opposed to advisory control (VFR flight following).

Looking at the details of R-2916, it appears that the Miami ARTCC is the agency listed to authorize entry into the Restricted Area....WTF??? What was the controller doing?

 

[nosehair]

according to the message I saw from NAS Key West, the pilot was under 'direct control' of Miami Center at the time

You cannot infer from a NAS report that he was actually undr 'IFR' control.

From a militay point of view, every airplane is under 'somebody's control'.

Like news reporters and general public, most non-GA people think every flying airplane is under someone's 'control'.

Wait for an 'official' FAA or NTSB report that specifies the words 'IFR' or other specific details.

Any time you have to 'assume', or 'infer', or 'imply', there is usually more to the story.

 

[Fearless Tower]

From a militay point of view, every airplane is under 'somebody's control'.

That may be true, but in the Navy, we make a definite distinction between direct and advisory control.

 

[AngelKing]

If someone knows anything different, please correct me, but according to the message I saw from NAS Key West, the pilot was under 'direct control' of Miami Center at the time of the accident. To me that implies that not only was he in communication with ATC, but he was IFR as opposed to advisory control (VFR flight following).

Looking at the details of R-2916, it appears that the Miami ARTCC is the agency listed to authorize entry into the Restricted Area....WTF??? What was the controller doing?

I think a better question would be....What was the pilot doing?


AK

 

[Rally]

How thick is the cable? Thats a one in a million hit.