CS or Flex!!

[DirtyBeech]

Is there any talk at all with Flex adding new/more bases?
Other then adding Den and dropping another.

Only as we grow and the economics are viable. Now we did add 80ish crewmembers this last year which crewed 18-19 new aircraft. We're getting another 20 net aircraft this year as well. That's 40ish new aircraft on property crewed by 160ish new pilots which is an expantion of something like 50% over two years. That's apparently not an indicator that we are in a financial position to open more bases. But what would I know? I'm injecting logic into a Flexjet management position.

 

[sflax]

Just like picking a college or flight school. Go where you feel that you and your family will be happy. Thats it. Nothing else needs to be considered.

 

[Nolife]

When did our catering get better, and what sick bastard keeps sending me the old catering?

Seems to have to me. I got great steaks for dinner several times in the last two months. Prior to that it was rubbery chicken and brown leaves. Still eating turkey sandwiches for lunch though.

 

[On Your Six]

Flexjet's domicile policy makes ZERO sense. Why allow DFW or DEN and not ORD or LAX?

 

[CL300Pilot]

ORD would make perfect sense. LAX does not make sense due to lack of utilization on first and last days, mostly first. We did have ONT as a base but it was a miserable decision from a company stand point. ORD, ATL, STL and MCO in my opinion make the most sense for us.

Flexjet's domicile policy makes ZERO sense. Why allow DFW or DEN and not ORD or LAX?

 

[Club ORD FO]

CS - 7 days on.

just a correction here... i believe that CS has new schedules to choose from

and a "week" of vacation at flex is 5 paid days with 4 unpaid on either side, versus 7 paid days everywhere else.

but 3 vacation periods after 3 years is definitely pretty good, i suppose that is something we have going for us. And we will soon have the best 401k in the industry.

but you'll still make more money at CS.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

And we will soon have the best 401k in the industry

Please elaborate. What exactly are the terms that will make this the best 401K in the industry.

 

[GSXR600]

I know, I know go to NetJets!!!
If you can't seem to get the interview with NJA then would you look at CS or Flex with thier new pay scales! All things considered. I want to know what you guys and gals think!

LRN

Flex new pay assuming you upgrade in 2.5 to 3 years
FO:
Year Scale 202days Hourly OT Rate
1 278 56,132 34.74
2 288 58,097 35.95
3 307 62,000 38.37
CA goes back to second year CA pay (equipment Lear 40/45/60) six years to get the CL300/605
2 418 84,433 52.25
3 467 94,300 58.35
4 491 99,235 61.41
Six years with the company…..transition to CL300 or 605
5 548 110,595 68.44
6 560 113,143 70.01
10 629 126,987 78.58
Daily OT FO
Yr 1-3 375
Yr 4+ 400
Lear CA CL300/605
Yr 1-6 600 Yr 1-6 700
Yr 7+ 700 Yr 7+ 800

CS pay is a higher because they work less days (pay scale 182 days)
CA
1 - 83270
5- 101762
10- 120,261
15- 142,122

FO
1 - 55,510
2 - 58,286
3 - 61,200
4 - 64,260
10- 79738

Don’t know what their daily overtime rate is but………
IMPO I don’t like the 7/7 because, 7 days off are nice but WORKING for 7 days straight is not my thing. That is why I like Flex schedule! I do 5 on 4 off or 4 on 4 off + I think (correct me if I am wrong) to work overtime with the 7/7 will put you to work more than 7 days and I just don’t like that.

Overall they are both great companies to work for with a great pilot group!

Good luck on your decision

 

[GSXR600]

Sorry about the spacing I clicked but didnt work

 

[XTW]

just a correction here... i believe that CS has new schedules to choose from

and a "week" of vacation at flex is 5 paid days with 4 unpaid on either side, versus 7 paid days everywhere else.

but 3 vacation periods after 3 years is definitely pretty good, i suppose that is something we have going for us. And we will soon have the best 401k in the industry.

CS Clarification:

Schedules: 7-on/7-off, possible variations offered in the future, nothing yet published

Vacations: years 1-5, 1 week vacation(7 days)
years 6+, 2 weeks vacation(2-7days)

401K: 100% match on the first 6% contributed(includes base pay, overides, and overtime)

XTW