Crew Meals at the Fractionals - Good, Bad & Ugly

[Diesel]

Hey flybet its not my fault you can't figure out why the company is so willing to provide us crewfood and perdiem is it? I'll gladly shut down and go have a sitdown dinner for my perdiem. Oh wait can't loose the plane for 3 meal periods a day? I wonder how we'll (mgmt) keep the planes moving?

2 25 dollar meals is about .01 on the hobbs. Hmmm how cheap.

 

[dime line]

Come on Hammer. You are better than that.

Fuel/Food are the things that keep the hardware and liveware of a fractional operating at peak efficiency.

Fuel for the plane is a concept that has been drilled into our heads from day one flight insdtruction. There are FARs to determine how much, how often, etc.

Food for the liveware (pilots) is a concept that goes back even further (to breast feeding as a baby), yet many management teams can't grasp it's importance. Obviously, some pilots grapple with the issue too.

Pilots are not to fly fatigued. Food induced fatigue is very real and surviving off of nuts, berries and Oreos from the back is not nutrition that will last. Our Owners pay for more than hungry, hunger-fatigued flight crews. They expect and deserve us reasted and fed; ready for duty.

Solutions needed...

1) Let the pilots leave the FBO and seek food (costly in terms of time and money).

2) Provide catered meals on demand at planned stops as required for the individual pilot's needs since he/she knows their nutritional needs best. This solves the nutritional issue AND makes the crew more time efficient as they can keep working and eat during turns or in the air. This is a GREAT benefit to the company. They know it and so do we.

Hunger is NOT an options and food is just as important at NetJets as the fuel load on that release.

Oh your so getting called into our new "Productivity Workshops" going on

 

[CA1900]

Oh your so getting called into our new "Productivity Workshops" going on

Is that one of those things where you hit each other with foam bats?

 

[Dooker]

If taking a ham sandwich from the company really torques some of you guys off that much, I have to ask: why did you pick a career in which you're essentially interchangeable with about fifteen thousand (perhaps more) other people who have the exact same qualifications as you?

We're all as interchangeable as EFIS tubes or any other installed part. That's why we have numbers. If you can't deal with that fact, go do something that demonstrates you really are special, something nobody else can do, like throw a 97 mph fastball or win a major golf tournament or invent something really great. Then you can ride in the back of the plane and eat brie and caviar until you hurl.

If you CAN'T do that, accept the reality of where and what you are, take pride in your work and don't expect ANYONE to be grateful. And if they are, hey, that's just gravy.

Meanwhile, quit yer bitchin.

 

[Flybet3]

If taking a ham sandwich from the company really torques some of you guys off that much, I have to ask: why did you pick a career in which you're essentially interchangeable with about fifteen thousand (perhaps more) other people who have the exact same qualifications as you?

We're all as interchangeable as EFIS tubes or any other installed part. That's why we have numbers. If you can't deal with that fact, go do something that demonstrates you really are special, something nobody else can do, like throw a 97 mph fastball or win a major golf tournament or invent something really great. Then you can ride in the back of the plane and eat brie and caviar until you hurl.

If you CAN'T do that, accept the reality of where and what you are, take pride in your work and don't expect ANYONE to be grateful. And if they are, hey, that's just gravy.

Meanwhile, quit yer bitchin.

DAM N STRAIGHT!
Hey Dooker, how's the new job treating ya brother?!

 

[FLYLOW22]

Oh your so getting called into our new "Productivity Workshops" going on

Hahaha. So long as the pilots get their fair piece of the fruits of productivity, no worries.

Management teams who can't share have it all figured out already; just ask them.

 

[FLYLOW22]

If taking a ham sandwich from the company really torques some of you guys off that much, I have to ask: why did you pick a career in which you're essentially interchangeable with about fifteen thousand (perhaps more) other people who have the exact same qualifications as you?

We're all as interchangeable as EFIS tubes or any other installed part. That's why we have numbers. If you can't deal with that fact, go do something that demonstrates you really are special, something nobody else can do, like throw a 97 mph fastball or win a major golf tournament or invent something really great. Then you can ride in the back of the plane and eat brie and caviar until you hurl.

If you CAN'T do that, accept the reality of where and what you are, take pride in your work and don't expect ANYONE to be grateful. And if they are, hey, that's just gravy.

Meanwhile, quit yer bitchin.

You're reasoning isn't sound. It does not adhere to common sense and safety. You try to promote a work environment full of fear and dictatorship.

You would not like it here.

Have a nice career... number 1257348.

 

[ozpilot]

If taking a ham sandwich from the company really torques some of you guys off that much, I have to ask: why did you pick a career in which you're essentially interchangeable with about fifteen thousand (perhaps more) other people who have the exact same qualifications as you?

We're all as interchangeable as EFIS tubes or any other installed part. That's why we have numbers. If you can't deal with that fact, go do something that demonstrates you really are special, something nobody else can do, like throw a 97 mph fastball or win a major golf tournament or invent something really great. Then you can ride in the back of the plane and eat brie and caviar until you hurl.

If you CAN'T do that, accept the reality of where and what you are, take pride in your work and don't expect ANYONE to be grateful. And if they are, hey, that's just gravy.

Meanwhile, quit yer bitchin.

I hate to say it, but Dooker has a point. How many other professions promote purely based on years of service?

 

[Diesel]

We might be as interchangeable as EFIS's but there is a cost to that part number swap much like there is a cost to us being swaped out. You can't swap out 3000+ wings overnight so there is some cost/benefit associated with each senority number. The key to this job is to make sure that your cost of swaping with a core is greater than just putting some grease on the part and keeping it working.

Economics my friend, just like keeping meat in the seat. It all comes down to economics.

 

[Galaxy]

Honestly, does this thread have to continue? If you have NJA Ham sandwich envy then just apply there. If your company doesnt see the benefit of keeping you in your seat then enjoy your meal at the Awful House. Per Diem is requiered by law providing crew meals is just a good mgt decision.. Believe me if they thought it wasn't needed they would not shell out a dime for it.