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DrinkSweetTea

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Posted on Thu, Apr. 08, 2004

Fayetteville, N.C., Officials' Effort to Land More Airline Flights Stalls

By Paul Woolverton, The Fayetteville Observer, N.C. Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News

Apr. 8--RALEIGH, N.C. - Efforts to bring more commercial airline flights to Fayetteville, Moore County and four other communities in North Carolina have stalled, said several officials involved in the plan.

"We're not any further along than we were six months ago," said Brad Whited, director of Fayetteville Regional Airport.

The effort can't proceed because of a contract that American Airlines has with its pilots' labor union, said Harold Garner, chairman of the Moore County Airport Authority.

The contract limits how often American Airlines can hire outside companies to fly under American's name and airline reservations code, said Garner, who is a retired American Airlines pilot.

This is called "code sharing" in the airline industry.

The code share being pursued in North Carolina would have American partner with Corporate Airlines of Smyrna, Tenn. Corporate's planes, painted to look like American's, would funnel passengers from the six small cities and towns to Raleigh-Durham International Airport to connect to other flights. In the airline reservations system, Corporate's flights would appear to be American flights.

"For all practical purposes it's an American airplane," Garner said.

Garner, Whited and representatives from the other airports seeking more air service attended a meeting at the Raleigh-Durham airport Wednesday morning to discuss the plan's status.

Fayetteville, Moore County, Wilmington, New Bern, Kinston and Hickory, have formed a consortium to get the air service and have a $1.2 million federal grant to help them. Fayetteville, Wilmington and New Bern have some commercial flights; Moore County, Kinston and Hickory have none.

American is trying to get a waiver so it can code share with Corporate in North Carolina, said Douglas Caldwell, president of Corporate Airlines. "Once they get this waiver, then we will code-share" and can start the flights, he said.

Corporate could forego code sharing and fly to the six cities under its own name and reservation code. But the lack of a code share with American would make it much harder to sell Corporate's flights. Code-shared flights on other airlines, such as Delta and US Airways, would show up first to people booking the flights, he said.

American is negotiating with the Allied Pilots Association to get permission to code share for flights to Raleigh-Durham International, said American spokesman Tim Wagner.

"We just have not worked out the issue yet," Wagner said.

If the Corporate-American code share can't work out, Garner said, the consortium will look for other ways to add commercial air service.


I wish both of these companies could come to some sort of agreement. Maybe something in writing saying that the waiver can only be for 19 seat airplanes. Something to protect the interests of AE and also help Corpex. These cities like SOP, ISO, HKY arent going to get any other type of service then this, and it would good for all if it happened.
 
There are alot of 3C guys chomping at the bit to get back to RDU; many of them moved there when Corpex was still flying for Midway. Hope they can get back there soon...

I also hope the APA, Eagle ALPA, AMR and Corpex can work something out to serve these cities. I'm certainly no expert on EGL or APA scope, but I don't see how 3C flying a bunch of ex-EGL junkstreams is a threat to Eagle, let alone AMR.
 
BoilerUP said:
I also hope the APA, Eagle ALPA, AMR and Corpex can work something out to serve these cities. I'm certainly no expert on EGL or APA scope, but I don't see how 3C flying a bunch of ex-EGL junkstreams is a threat to Eagle, let alone AMR.

I'm pretty sure there are some Eagle pilots that wouldn't mind an RDU base and additional flying. No harm meant towards Corpex guys, but Eagle should have the first shot at the flying, then 3C.

Scope protects jobs, period.
 
I would think that if Eagle allowed Corpex in, they would stand a better chance of having a base there. They arent going to be running ERJs RDU-SOP, so the routes either get served by allowing C3 in or they dont get served.
 
That is most likely true...

But Eagle should set the terms of allowing 3C more AMR flying. I know lots of Eagle guys want an RDU base anyway.
 
I understand scope protects jobs, but...

I sort of understand Eagle's issues with CHQ and TSA operating jets as AmericanConnection out of STL (who did so previously as TWE), but what do they stand to lose by letting 3C fly 19-seat planes under the Connection banner in STL or RDU? If Eagle still wanted to be in the 19-seat turboprop market, would they have parked all their Jetstreams?

AMR (both AA and Eagle) would benefit from allowing 3C to feed AA and Eagle planes in RDU because it wouldn't really bear any financial risk, and it can only bring them much-needed revenue.

Have Eagle scope put reasonable limits on the type of flying 3C can do, but don't prevent it all together - 3C is NOT a threat to Eagle jobs.
 
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