Continental Cockpit jumpseat policies

[migio]

Does CAL ever allow 2 cockpit jumpseat riders aboad on say a 767 when there is an IRO?(International Relief Officer)

It could work,since they allways reserve 1 First Class seat in the back or 3 coach seats for a rest area for the working crewmembers.For takeoff and landing,1 IRO in 1 jumpseat,1 cockpit jumpseat rider in the 2nd jumpseat,and the 2nd jumpseater could just ride in the rest seat for the takeoff and landing and then everyone would play musical chairs during the flight.

Does CAL allow this?

Thanks

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Sounds like too much work. Use a vacation pass.

 

[Alchemy]

Uhhh, you can't ride in the jumpseat at all on international flights, so you will be space available in the back only (unlimited # of jumpseaters, although none of them may ride in the cockpit).

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Uhhh, you can't ride in the jumpseat at all on international flights, so you will be space available in the back only (unlimited # of jumpseaters, although none of them may ride in the cockpit).

Is that a CAL specific policy? My understanding was that it was not allowed on any international flights destined for the US, but now that I think about it I do believe I have heard somewhere that CAL doesn't allow international jumpseating in the cockpit at all.

 

[Alchemy]

It's the TSA's or some other such government beauracracy's mandated policy.

No j/s riders in the cockpit to/from international destinations on U.S. carriers, not just CAL as far as I know.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Okay, perhaps I understood it wrong.

 

[ERfly]

It's the TSA's or some other such government beauracracy's mandated policy.

No j/s riders in the cockpit to/from international destinations on U.S. carriers, not just CAL as far as I know.

CAL pilots may ride the JS to and from International Destinations. However, I think if there is an IRO, then there is only 1 cockpit j/s available. I think special permission may be required from the higher ups to allow the IRO to sit in back during Takeoff and Landing.

 

[migio]

CAL pilots may ride the JS to and from International Destinations. However, I think if there is an IRO, then there is only 1 cockpit j/s available. I think special permission may be required from the higher ups to allow the IRO to sit in back during Takeoff and Landing.

An IRO would NEVER have to sit in the back for TOL's even if there was 2 cockpit jumpseaters because 1 cockpit jumpseater could ride in jumpseat #1 and the other in the relief seat in the back,meanwhile,the IRO would also be in the cockpit in jumpseat #2.I dont know if this is allowed,but technically it could be done.There would just be alot of seat swapping due to the IRO,FO,and CA going to the back to rest.

I heard that you can ride cockpit jumpseat internationally on CAL,just not going TO the US.Only going OUT of the US.

 

[Alchemy]

The flight deck jumpseat on Continental International flights is prohibited to any individual not identified in CCS on the flight's "Crew List."

This is straight out of the CAL FOM. Interpret that however you wish I suppose, but to me that means you aren't riding up front on an international CAL flight, even if you're a CAL pilot, regardless of wether it's leaving the USA or entering.