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bramafear

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You're time has come! Do you feel it?

A little background here might surfice:

Our elite drivers made as much as U guys. (Reference: We hauled the wings, blah, blah, blah) They hit bridges, rolled bombs & missles and cause evacuations, cause accidental fatalities, and de-railed trains, yes an entire train. So, there was a lot on their minds too.

I have the utmost respect for pilots. Their responsibility is paramount in transportation. However, I see them as victims of a policy gone a wry.

Why should someone doing their very best with pride be on the chopping block?

You'e CEO's can not save you in this time of cutbacks. However, you can save yourselves and your occupation by saying, "I have had enough!"

Bidding is a stop-gap solution during a down draft in sales. It is a slow death solution in the long-term.

STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!

Only you hold the capacity as a whole. I wish we could have done that on the ground.

Reason why to do so: remove the road blocks to travel within common sense terms, disband the like of what we had the DOT to lobby for your cause and re-hire them with commitment to your industry, remove any eroneous taxes for 5 years, require a Federal campaign ( not from this clueless President ), "Everything is back to normal, take a flight!"

Force your company to think strategically! What about business development? What other kind of alliances can we have? Where's the **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** scorecard on how we are doing?

Secondly, make them suit clones get on the **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** plane and serve and talk to customers about their needs, wants, and desires.

This whole situation is disgusting!

How many beers? A bunch.. but a feel a lot better since I invested $100 to send out 800 copies of my resume to CEO's of my choice.

To lose while ignorant is just a loss. To lose knowing is devastating!
 
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WTF? :confused:
 
think how many co-pays that $100 would have gotten you in therapy....
 
Brama,

Let us know what else those "voices" are telling you...

We wait breathlessly.
 
Are you experienced?

Ah hummmmmm....

Keep laughing boys, I hear that this March they are going to dump another boat load of pilots. Let me know if I am wrong.

Shades of things to come....
 
Bart

bart said:
Brama,

Let us know what else those "voices" are telling you...

We wait breathlessly.

I just did. Check the other board....

By the way, can you pick up a pair of Buster Brown shoes for yourself?
 
Does ANYTHING that makes sense EVER come out this guy's keyboard?

LTG:eek: :eek:
 
Yeah

Long Time Gone said:
Does ANYTHING that makes sense EVER come out this guy's keyboard?

LTG:eek: :eek:
I know that flying 70,000 ft above the problem is stretching it for most. That is why we had to have SR-2s flying over Cuba to demostrate the facts.
 
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Oh, I get it, Brama is sooooo much smarter than us and sees the situation so much more clearly than we do. Why, by george, he is thinking strategically, while the rest of us are looking at trees.

Well, thanks for the insights, I know they look like delusions to the rest of the world, but keep marching to that drummer old boy... maybe one day the rest of us will catch up.
 
Charmin

Okay, I will start to take roll call on my roll of Charmin toilet paper:

Bart
Flying Illini
FlyChicaga
Gulfstream 200 ( mister in bad taste )
 
Those shoes fit nicely?

bart said:
Oh, I get it, Brama is sooooo much smarter than us and sees the situation so much more clearly than we do. Why, by george, he is thinking strategically, while the rest of us are looking at trees.

Well, thanks for the insights, I know they look like delusions to the rest of the world, but keep marching to that drummer old boy... maybe one day the rest of us will catch up.

I just hope I am wrong, but the weather is not calm.
 
Have you ever tried to write on toilet paper? So difficult. The pen causes the paper to rip constantly. Quite a task to undertake. Which is why I don't pick up women in bathrooms. Although their pants are already around their ankles, it just isn't worth it, thanks to the two-ply.

I am honored you would put such effort into adding me to your "list."
 
use that toilet paper to wipe your mouth, because all you do is spew $hit!

your entertainment value expired a few posts back..

:rolleyes:
 
FlyChicaga said:
Have you ever tried to write on toilet paper? So difficult. The pen causes the paper to rip constantly. Quite a task to undertake. Which is why I don't pick up women in bathrooms. Although their pants are already around their ankles, it just isn't worth it, thanks to the two-ply.

I am honored you would put such effort into adding me to your "list."

Quite a laugh! Thank you. But actually one of the Washington Post boys did it during Watergate :)
 
Elvis

Gulfstream 200 said:
use that toilet paper to wipe your mouth, because all you do is spew $hit!

your entertainment value expired a few posts back..

:rolleyes:

Thank You, Very Mush!
 
Any Low Flying?

Gulfstream 200 said:
use that toilet paper to wipe your mouth, because all you do is spew $hit!

your entertainment value expired a few posts back..

:rolleyes:

Is it 5k legal flying or did you do some tree-top flying for others we don't know about? I hope your cargo pays the same.
 
Try this....

Flying upside down with bondholders breathing down your neck.
 
Bruce ... dat you?

:D

Minh
(I really shouldn't make fun of those with disabilities :( )
 
Huh?

For the dimwits:

Without these ingredients:

* Raw Goods
* Manufacturing
* Transportation
* Consumers

You have nothing! Welcome to the 3rd World. Want to go there?
 
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bramafear said:
For the dimwits:

Without these ingredients:

* Raw Goods
* Manufacturing
* Transportation
* Consumers

You have nothing! Welcome to the 3rd World. Want to go there?


All this time so many of you have cast aside the concern of others about the "chemtrails" being sprayed by the "black" airplanes high in the atmosphere. I think now givin the cryptic messaging that Bramafear is trying to impart on all of us that the threat is real. Good God man, the chemgoo has poisined his superior black ops hardened mind, and I fear the end is near for us all. Everyone involved in aviation should heed this harbingers call and demand answers on the chemtrail/ chemgoo conspiracy once and for all. Bramafear let me be the first to commend you for a job well done in taking the lead in exposing the real and lasting effects of chemgoo on the human mind. We are all indebited to your bravery.


I wonder if this will get me on his list as well, I hate feeling left out...:)
 
Commercial Pilot Apathy

Bramafear,

Bubba, I feel your pain. However, this is not the time to invest in beer. Studies are beginning to show that people who "vent" are more prone to heart problems than those who sublimate. Those who are still in the work force have little empathy for those supporting a changing market from the outside.

"Trickle Down Economics" does not work. Ceiling price controls does not work. Government subsidies and buy backs does not work. I think what the government might be trying to do next is limit the size a corporation can grow.

Limit the size forces a company to divide into two or more small organizations and diversify its product lines. Overhead operating costs increase forcing a reduction in salaries and increase in sales to maintain the "bottom line." This approach increases employment across the board, provides greater control over inflationary spending by corporate megalopoly's and protects from foreign market monopolization.

What do you think?
 
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ThomasR said:
Bramafear,

Bubba, I feel your pain. However, this is not the time to invest in beer. Studies are beginning to show that people who "vent" are more prone to heart problems than those who sublimate. Those who are still in the work force have little empathy for those supporting a changing market from the outside.

I only had 4 beers & a few glasses of wine while watching my weber grill do it's thing on my deck. Thanks for the support. Like I said in my very first post: I was drawn to this flight board due to the gut-wrenching story of one of your Brothers in Arms. After my own experience here, I do understand his frustration with his own peers who could care less, once one is in freefall.

By the way, the pork steaks came out great as usual ;)

ThomasR said:
"Trickle Down Economics" does not work. Ceiling price controls does not work. Government subsidies and buy backs does not work. I think what the government might be trying to do next is limit the size a corporation can grow.

Yes, that is in place to protect entry into a particular market. If one companys has 90% of any one market, they can dictate the price. Use Bell as a prime example; however, I do think you do lose on some other issues when you break up a huge company like that.

ThomasR said:
Limit the size forces a company to divide into two or more small organizations and diversify its product lines. Overhead operating costs increase forcing a reduction in salaries and increase in sales to maintain the "bottom line." This approach increases employment across the board, provides greater control over inflationary spending by corporate megalopoly's and protects from foreign market monopolization.

Interesting.... now lets throw into the mix outsourcing. My company was a holding company of multiple small to large specialized transportation companies. Each company had duplicate processes and each company paid a monthly management fee to the holding company based upon revenue size. It took us two attempts and many years and multiple migraines to combine all these companies processes into one --- it was truely a nightmare.

Now, with outsourcing, they can solely focus on Sales and executive mgmt within the service industry that requires no actual local geographical hands on expertise. So, I believe that the majority of back office processes will be outsourced.

If you are in sales, senior executive mgmt ( and not snore during boardroom meetings), or a executive administrative assistant ( secretary), you should be safe until retirement.

The name of the game in big business is one thing: marketshare domination. Look for more mergers in the airline industry on the horizon....'cause they desperately need to control the price and the only way to do that is control the capacity. Case in point:
What's the purpose of OPEC?
 
As a consumer you dictate the market. Companies know this. No matter how many mergers and acquisitions take place people are not going to sit back and take it up the…
If ticket prices become obscene I won’t fly and I’m sure many people will do the same.
P.s—I don’t think you can compare OPEC with the airline industry. A bit different situation.
 
The airlines do not sit down quarterly and decide capacity and pricing. Sure there are market leaders that set price, but it doesn't take much to get prices to move. Spend some time with an airline pricing analyst sometime. The work these guys do make arbs look simple.
 
Bramafear, I was going to reply, but decided it would be easier if you just added me to the list now.

Thanks.
 

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