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Colgan Beech fatal (8/03) final report

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chperplt

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The final report on the accident is complete and awaiting a sign off from the board. The report is expected to be signed sometime in May.

The findings I am writing below may change slightly once the full board meets to issue the "final" stamp on the AAR.

First of all.. Colgan Air has been found to be at fault in this accident

The sited facts in the AAR are nearly 200 pages long.

In a nutshell.... The elevator trim was installed backwards and the mechanics that worked on the trim were not authorized to perform the work. They also skipped numerous steps within the maintenance manual procedure.

The only fault found with the crew was the failure to perform a first flight of the day check.

Some notes about the CVR. There was over 2 hours of information on the CVR. The aircraft was getting work done for 2 days prior to the accident. Some of these 2 hours were conversations between the mechanics.

The CVR tells us that they knew immediately after takeoff that they had a problem. They assumed the problem to be a runaway trim. The Captain told the FO to roll the trim back... He then is heard saying roll it all the way back and pull the breaker. Since no two breakers are in the same place on a Colgan airplane, the FO had some trouble finding the correct CB. The Captain directed him to the CB and then told him to help him on the controls and that he was having a hard time holding on. As they attempted to return to the airport, the control pressure was too much and the controls jerked from the crews hands. They were not able to recover.

The AFM for the Beechcraft 1900 says the required force to hold control pressure and maintain control in this situation is approximately 100 pounds. The NTSB very recently did their own testing in a full motion simulator and found the actual amount of pressure required to maintain aircraft control was approximately 260 pounds of pressure. You do the math..

In addition to finding the required pressure, the accident profile was flown by pilots who were expecting the problem and had an idea in their minds how to keep aircraft control. None of the sim experiments resulted in a successful landing contrary to what was published in a recent newspaper article.

Shortly after the accident, the DO sent a memo out telling all pilots that checklists are mandatory and might save our lives one day. The intent of the memo in my mind was to shift blame to the flight crew and away from Colgan. Just to reiterate, the only fault given to the crew was not completing a first flight of the day check.

Some additional facts...

The aircraft was not given a test flight prior to being released on it's supposed repositioning flight.

The aircraft did not have a valid airworthy release

Other maintenance discrepancies were found within the maintenance log recovered from the accident.


More to come when the AAR is officially released.
 
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I may be hard-up for a job right now, but this is why I didn't apply to Colgan. I had to think about that decision because I was tempted, but we are supposed to learn form our past mistakes (Got the t-shirt, or shirts). "Whatever doesn't kill us is supposed to make us stronger." Or something like that? Unfortunately, two of our brethren had to pay the ultimate price. I pray that some good comes form this, that somebody learns from this, and that a future disaster is averted by utilizing the knowledge gained from this investigation.
 
I guess this settles all the back and forth fighting that was going on earlier about Colgan......remember the guy who said Colgan was unsafe, and someone was all over him about it.
 
ya know, if any of us pilots were as grossly negligent as those doing the work on this plane, we'd have our certificates revoked under emergency authority.

But, I suppose Colgan is flying today, right?
 
chperplt said:
The only fault found with the crew was the failure to perform a first flight of the day check.

The aircraft was not given a test flight prior to being released on it's supposed repositioning flight.

The aircraft did not have a valid airworthy release

Other maintenance discrepancies were found within the maintenance log recovered from the accident.

While not excusing the omission of a proper preflight....... would a normal preflight inspection have detected the backwards installation? Can you see the empennage from the cockpit of a 1900 when performing a control check prior to takeoff?
 
would a normal preflight inspection have detected the backwards installation?

NO... The only way you could verify the correct installation would be to look at the elevator while someone else moved the wheel. This is a step for the mechanics... one that wasn't done.
 
yeah, as I recall from other King Airs, you align the trim wheel to zero, and check that the black marks line up at the elevator trim tab actuators.

The functional trim check that is done during taxi (or whenever Colgan does it) likely would not have reveled that it was hooked up wrong at the back.

If that's the case, I see it difficult to place any blame on the crew.
 
Isn't this the second fatal accident of a 1900 in a year or so concerning the same type of elevator pitch trim malfunction ?

I am referring to the Charlotte crash of the Mesa/Midwest ???? 1900 ???
 
rjcap said:
Isn't this the second fatal accident of a 1900 in a year or so concerning the same type of elevator pitch trim malfunction ?

I am referring to the Charlotte crash of the Mesa/Midwest ???? 1900 ???

I believe that CLT flight had to do with the (mis)rigging of the elevator not the trim. If I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me. -Bean
 
Who in the hell do they have working on these airplanes... Skippy "Axel-Grease" McGuilacutty from the local Jiffy Lube?? :mad:

This is just common sense stuff for anyone with half a brain. Why wouldn't the mechanic visually check this?
 
I'm not going to pretend I know the first thing about Colgan, but I would assume that several mechanics worked on the plane, and like poor CRM, they missed it.
 
Don't you think if Colgan was that "unsafe" as some claim the FAA would have shut them down long before now.. I find it very hard to buy into some of this stuff that is postes. There are no sacred cows in this game. The FAA has shut many operators down in the past so I have a hard time believing that Colgan is that bad and that unsafe, bottom line is they would be no more if the FAA thought they were a safety threat/concern, etc, to the general flying public.



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The pilots were employees. As such their families' financial recovery will possibly be limited to worker's compensation. In most States, Worker's Comp is an exclusive remedy.
 
I have a lot to say on this. As some of you may or may not know... I was the ops agent. And some of you know more about my involvement than others. Those of you that don't know or cant figure out what i am talking about, but feel you should go ahead and PM me, but Im not going to post it here...

I am kinda upset not to see as much on Raytheon. They did have an imporperly printed manual. I know the mechanics, and they probably could have had better training. But I also know that they were trained. Everyone who knows me knows that I am the type of person who doesnt want to see anyone blamed for anything. Did Colgan have a lot to do with this? Yea... Had that same trim been written up many other times?? Yup. Did Colgan know they had something wrong with the plane?? I dont know. (I have some ideas though)

I spoke to scott maybe an hour before the crash. He came and visited me and ate Wendy's (his usual) and we chatted about his flights earlier that day, and the airport hopping around he had done. When Colgan first called him for the flight he ignored it. Earlier Steve had been in, looking up some flights, he mentioned Colgan had called him for the flight, but that they didnt have a Captain. I told him Scott was on reserve, Scott will always fly. I told him he would probably end up flying. A few hours later, I hear the plane take off. I was out at the front desk and someone said there was an emergency landing comming in and listening for the radio. I went out to stand ont he tarmac, someone said it was a private plane. I had a wierd sinking feeling. On the ramp I stood with a ton of cape air pilots. Looking back I know they knew it was my plane. At the time I had no idea. The trucks suddenly came off the runway, and the cop who had been standing next to me walked away to listen to his radio because it had started going crazy. They all knew it was the Colgan plane. I stood there when someone said the plane had crashed into the ocean. I walked back inside, I was waiting for the times for that flight. The assistant airport manager walked in, with the FAA. I thought I was getting an inspection. He asked me for a passenger list.

Thats my story. Not all of it. There is more... lots more. But thats the majority of it. Im glad to see its comming to an end. The families, both of them, deserve a lot more than what they will ever get. They deserve to have their families at home, the deserve to be able to hug thier loved ones. No amount of money from Colgan, or anyone else, will ever be able to fill that gap left in their hearts. I hope that they get closure from this.

I am saying way more than I need to. Sorry for that. Im tired, and I felt I should add that all in. Colgan isnt an unsafe airline, every airline has problems. Does colgan have more? Maybe. Does colgan have less? Probably not. Every airlne has problems, ever airline has the human factor. You cant completely erase that. Humans make mistakes. Im not trying to rationalize it. Im just telling you what I feel. Im done now, Im tired. Im rambling. Ill read this tomorrow and kick myself. But oh well...
 
Very sad story.

You folks may want to keep in mind that everything written on here is written fodder for lawyers.

I was called to testify durring an arbitration for somthing written on the CAL board. I didn't even have anything to do with the situation. If Colganites or lawyers see this there could be........dificulties. FYI
 
Aren't the 1st flight of the day checks all done from memory? I know you could get out the book and look at them....but is anyone taught to do it like that? And you are supposed to preflight the exterior with checklist in hand...what check list??? The pages in the airplane manual? We don't really have a separate checklist like you have for pipers and cessnas? I am confused on this.
 
350DRIVER said:
Don't you think if Colgan was that "unsafe" as some claim the FAA would have shut them down long before now

I wouldn't put so much trust in the FAA. ALL airlines have problems at various times and the FAA usually works with them and things get resolved. The decision to completely ground an airline is usually political. Take the old ValuJet. The horrific crash was as a result of criminal negligence by a subcontractor. I'm not saying there weren't serious problems at ValuJet but the decision to ground the whole airline came from politicians and not the FAA. The FAA is loathe to ground any airlines unless their hand is forced.

Dude
 
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