CitationII and King airs

[nerdpilot]

Why do these planes take so long to taxi out from the fbo?

 

[400A]

Why do these planes take so long to taxi out from the fbo?

They don't normally, unless they have slow gyro's or a military C-12 crew. If it is the later plan on at least 5 minutes at high idle with the props full forward.

 

[mavrck]

yeah, prolly just waiting for gyros to come up. Or, they are just remembering " Did you get the clearance? No, i thought you did!".

 

[willNOTfly4free]

The gyros in older Citations take a few minutes to spool up.

New King Airs with Collins Pro Line 21 have an ESIS which needs (IIRC) 180 seconds to come online.

 

[kingairyahoo]

The gyros in older Citations take a few minutes to spool up.

New King Airs with Collins Pro Line 21 have an ESIS which needs (IIRC) 180 seconds to come online.

120...and if the crew has any sense at all, they turn it on before plopping their @$$ in the seat so it dosent hold em up

 

[holmie]

The C12 avionics takes a long time to spool up. Even if you got the clearance prior to starting, loading the FMS is a pain. Our software doesn't let you preload departures only route waypoints so that doesn't help much. I try and keep the props in fx and at low idle if it's going to take a while to get a clearance.

 

[Kaman]

Typically, it takes a few minutes for the gyros to spool up...pick-up the clearance if it wasn't done earlier, initalize the nav. (GNS-400W and boot up the Avedyne 500 in my ship).

 

[satpak77]

The C12 avionics takes a long time to spool up. Even if you got the clearance prior to starting, loading the FMS is a pain. Our software doesn't let you preload departures only route waypoints so that doesn't help much. I try and keep the props in fx and at low idle if it's going to take a while to get a clearance.

(GNS-XLS...) Sometimes I just depart with VOR's (old fashioned) versus use the FMS, and load it enroute, or get ATC recommended heading intially.

I never used the FMS flying 135 freight at night in a Lance, I don't need it now.

the above may not be FAA Inspector legal under slant G (which we file under) but its only for 15 minutes and, well, welcome to the real world.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Why do these planes take so long to taxi out from the fbo?

I'm assuiming you're talking about a noisy ramp/FBO? I always wondered that myself. I see very few reasons why a professional crew can't be taxiing within a minute or two of engine start.

 

[BoilerUP]

I'm assuiming you're talking about a noisy ramp/FBO? I always wondered that myself. I see very few reasons why a professional crew can't be taxiing within a minute or two of engine start.

Because you can't taxi until the ADI gyro comes up, that's why...