Citation Ultra

[c140]

I did a search and didn't find much. But I'm Heading off to School for the initial in the Ultra at Simcom, is there any advice I could get on the training.... It will be my first type.

Thanks

 

[guido411]

Just because you CAN fly around at 250 KIAS everywhere doesn't mean you HAVE to. Applies to all jet checkrides.

 

[MASH4077]

SimCom is very laid back. You will be fine. Try to get to Charlie's for dinner. Also, give the Orlando Ale House a try. Good good beer, and food too. Hawthorne Suites has the best happy hour.... FREE

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

No reason whatsoever to exceed 200 kt. anytime in the sim. Keeps things slow and manageable. Good luck.

 

[learflyer]

No reason whatsoever to exceed 200 kt. anytime in the sim. Keeps things slow and manageable. Good luck.

except on the LOFT!

 

[crjdude]

The above info is spot on. Keep it nice and slow in the sim and don't forget to take some time off to grab a good dinner occassionally.

Any time I'm headed to an initial I try to have limitations and memory items committed to memory when I show on day #1. I also try to have "basic" system knowledge in my head. Schematics work well for this. The instructors will fill in the blanks in class. Basically the more you know before you start for class the better off you'll be. As you get closer to SIM start worrying about profiles, SOP's and annunciators.
I always ask myself "what do I need to know tomorrow." The Ultra/CE-500's a great plane.
Enjoy. Good luck.

crjdude

 

[c140]

Thanks for the input everyone

 

[blzr]

Don't forget to turn on the standby gyro 15 minutes prior to launch. Also, that is not your grandpa's citation. It will scoot. If you have a clearance to 2500 ft, pull the power back as soon as the gear is up or you'll blow through it. I'm not typed in it, but I get to fly one occasionally and I really think cessna did their homework when the built it.

 

[puddlejumper]

It's been a couple years, but from what I remember, the Orlando SimCom Citation training is the least expensive for a good reason. The simulator is a late 70s model Citation II (serial number 60 or so if I remember correctly.) Your Ultra training will be differences with the bulk of the school concentrating on the II.

The sim is extremely pitch/power sensitive. Almost as if the power levers were directly connected to the elevator. Power back, nose goes up etc... Don't expect the training to reflect hardly anything that can be carried over into the aircraft, especially the Primus 1000 equipped Ultra.

Good luck though and remember, have fun!

PJ

 

[Texanflyboy]

A lot of pilots going for their first type will tend to overstress themselves. After class, go eat dinner and let your brain soak up all that it took in. Then reinforce what you learned in class that day by studying for a couple hours w/ a friend. Then have a beer and go to bed. If you're all stressed out and studying until 2 or 3am then you'll plateau and you'll be to tired to soak up new info the next day. The Ultra is a really good simple first type. Pretty straight forward. It will help you down the road and make the transition to something bigger a lot easier.

I was told to do this when I went for my first PIC type in the Bravo/Ultra diff. Made for a very simple, easy, unstressful two weeks! And what was said before, the more you know before school will help as well. They'll get you through it if you're having a problem. Remember you're the customer there. If you have an instructor you don't like....get a new one!

I did my initial at FlightSafety ICT and recurrent at CAE DFW. Never been to Simcom however, I liked CAE better just for the fact that they have a decent cafe' in the building. An hour for lunch is done in a rush when you have to drive to the other side of the field and eat at the Cessna Cafe' at ICT! (the closest place).

TEX

BTW...the STBY gyro only takes 180 seconds to spool up! Just don't move the aircraft or it resets and recounts!