CHQ -- Not Republic -- to fly E170 initially

[FurloughedAgain]

This is an interesting turn of events. I was under the impression that, as per Delta's PWA, Comair and ASA were the only Delta affiliates permitted to operate 70 passenger aircraft -- even if other affiliates were using such an aircraft on a different codeshare (or independently).

Case-in-point = ACA. When Independance ordered the Airbus they were in violation of the Delta PWA and therefore lost their Delta Connection contract. (is that correct?)

So, that being the case, once Chautauqua takes delivery of the first Embraer 170 -- even if it is flown in UAL colors -- will they still be permitted to fly as Delta Connection?


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Republic will use Chautauqua jets


Republic Airways has decided to use Chautauqua Airlines jets to fly regional routes for United Airlines until its new subsidiary gets certification to fly 70-seat jets.

Republic originally had planned to use 50-seat jets on the routes, but now plans to use the larger jets starting in October. Chautauqua's sister carrier, Republic Airlines, hasn't been certified for the larger planes yet and the company said it expects Chautauqua will get certification by October. Chautauqua's maintenance base is in Louisville.

 

[lionflyer]

Skywest flys 70 seaters for UAL also. Seems like they can get away with it.

 

[asarjfo]

I believe the Delta PWA states that only 57 CRJ 700's can be flown in Delta colors. As far as SKW and CHQ, then can fly as many 70 seat airplanes as they want for United. ACA ran into a problem because they ordered an aircraft with over 70 seats (Airbus), which is not allowed under the Delta PWA.

 

[aewanabe]

Lots of discussion of this over here at CHQ, as well. The consensus seems to be that since our 170s will be configured with F/C and E+ seats (less than 70 total, IOW) we are free and clear regarding DL scope. Republic still is charging ahead with work on its certificate application, lots of speculation that the intent is to fly E-Jets with >70 seats (ala Mid-Atlantic). Surplus made a good post a week or so ago alluding to why this was permissible under DALPA's scope.

Interestingly enough, APA is squawking that placing 170s on the CHQ cert. is in violation of THEIR scope; as shrewd as our mgmt usually is I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up sooner.

Lastly, notwithstanding XJ's Avros, yes it does disturb me to see a large-cabin, two-class airplane on its way to the Regionals. I have fond memories of riding Piedmont F28s in and out of my hometown as a kid, a city that US can't even service with Express anymore.

 

[RJ#1]

Yep those motherf***er APA boys will get away with murder if they cant!

 

[lowecur]

Interestingly enough, APA is squawking that placing 170s on the CHQ cert. is in violation of THEIR scope; as shrewd as our mgmt usually is I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up sooner. It's all about CHQ swinging a pair of big ones. They know that DL, AMR are in no position to piss them off. Both of those carriers may need the 170 or 190 from them in the future. With scope discussions on-going at all the legacy's, don't look for them to chop off their nose just in case things don't work out.

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[dash8driver]

this thread was the last on the list and about to fall off the bottom.. i just wanted to reply to it to keep it alive..