CFIs: What syllabus do you use?

[MarineGrunt]

Just wondering what syllabus you guys prefer. We use Jepp here, and I just don't like the whole set-up. I went through training at a university, and they use their own course. I'm instructor here that takes new students, so I might think of using something else...

 

[Toy Soldier]

I personally use Gleim. I have used them both (Jepp and Gleim).

Also, you can get a CFI discount if you sell Gleim! However, I use it because I think it's a better product.

 

[bobbysamd]

Syllabus

Why don't you just crib off your university syllabus if you like it so much? You are familiar with it, and it obviously works.

Nothing wrong with creating your own course. I instructed on my own before going to work full-time at a 141 school. I trained my students based very much on how I was trained, with my own improvements. Using my own course I finished a Private student and essentially had another Private finished before I moved on. Just design your course using the building-block concept while keeping Part 61 and the PTS in mind. My copy of the Aviation Instructor's Handbook, which may be an old edition, has a sample Private syllabus.

 

[AV1ATRX]

My flight school is a Cessna Pilot Center and we use their Computer-Based Instruction program produced by the Kings. At a previous flight school I used the Jepp syllabus and it doesn't come close to what we're using now. I don't know if the straight King course is exactly the same, but it must be close. It is by far the best I've ever seen, and we've now gone 141 with it. It's great.

Side note: before this experience, I hated anything that came from the Kings. I had seen a lot of their videos and training materials. This stuff we've got now is much better.

 

[Slye]

We're using the Aeromedia Ground School In A Box. It's really a great program and the CD-ROM ground school is put together nicely. Makes things go smoothly for the student and instructor.

 

[tarp]

Let's see - what comes out of a can:

Soup, Spam, Hash, Chef Boryardee.

What do I like?

Steak, Lobster, Grilled Mahi.

Cooked to perfection by my own hands - takes a lot of work - tastes great - good results.

 

[BoDEAN]

Jepp

We use Jepp here, because our groundschool uses the jepp kits.
So we keep it simple.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Let's see - what comes out of a can:

Soup, Spam, Hash, Chef Boryardee.

What do I like?

Steak, Lobster, Grilled Mahi.

Except in this case, all of them tend to look pretty much alike. I still haven't come across one that does unusual attitudes under the hood before visual straight and level flight.

 

[Timebuilder]

We used the Jepp that came with our kits. It was simple and easy, and it came in that flip-chart, take it along version that allowed you to see the "review" info, and the specific tasks to be accomplished during the lesson. It made subbing for another instructor particularly easy; we just asked the student which lesson he was on.

We also used tapes, videos, and CD roms to supplement the one on one groundschool. Sometimes a picture really IS worth a thousand words.

 

[Riddle momma]

Gotta second AV1ATRX

I used to run the Jepp at the old flight school. The school I am at now is a CPC too, and I don't think I have seen a better ground school/syllabus program than Cessna's.

It is a King video course, so be prepared for bad jokes and all. However, they split it into nice labs that give the student only the information they need for the next flight rather than stuff them with information they won't need until their XCs. Before each flight they have a lab to complete, along with quizes at the end.

Very good use of video to demonstrate the flight portion. When the student comes in, he's already "flown" the maneuvers, and doesn't need the demonstration. He can get right to it.

It really practically elliminates need for ground lessons it's so easy to follow. Great for keeping costs down on the student.

 

[Whirlwind]

Ditto again on the King/Cessna CPC CD-ROM Course. Used it for my fixed-wing instrument rating and found it to be much better than anything else I've used.

It isn't a test prep like their other programs, it is a true ground school meant to replace most ground work with your CFI.

I'm looking forward to using it with my students as well.

 

[AV1ATRX]

We just got word from our Cessna representative this week that they are updating the CBI courses and they will include a multi engine course now. Also, you'll be able to buy a set that is PVT through COMM. He also mentioned something about a new course that will be a combination Private and Instrument, and the student will take the two checkrides together. I'd like to see that one...

 

[Whirlwind]

We just got word from our Cessna representative this week that they are updating the CBI courses and they will include a multi engine course now.

Nice!!!

Any idea on when this is coming out?

Fly Safe!

 

[Low and Fast]

similar to AV1ATRX I too instruct from the CPC sylabus. I did all of my training at the Cessna Pilot Center that I now instruct at and have grown very fond of the King Schools way of teaching the information that is needed for both the written and check-rides for the Private, Instrument, and Commercial.

Where I work we also use the Jeppesen sylabus for our Multi-Engine program as well as our CFI course and those seem to work out well too.

However if I had to chose between the two I would surely use the Cessna CPC sylabus over the Jeppesen.

 

[Tug Driver]

Isn't that Rick Rockwell fellow on the CPC disks the guy who married Darva Conger???

she was HOT in playboy...

 

[AV1ATRX]

Yeah, that's him. He's also Martha's brother, from what I understand.... And quite the comedian (wink wink)!

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Ditto again on the King/Cessna CPC CD-ROM Course. Used it for my fixed-wing instrument rating and found it to be much better than anything else I've used.

It isn't a test prep like their other programs, it is a true ground school meant to replace most ground work with your CFI.

I'm looking forward to using it with my students as well.

I too will use this.

 

[Tinstaafl]

Only ever managed to sit part way through a King video before switching it off. Their dumbed-down, 'entertainment' style presentation drives me nuts!

Never will I use a King theory course unless they change their moronic presentation style.