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Yeah, I dunno...
Figured as much whining about 'I can't find a job' as I read on this board...someone who can't find a job might be interested in spending a year on Hawaii logging more time and flying in Hawaii.
If I were single and met the requirements and didn't have enough time to get a better job, I'd be all over this.
Figured as much whining about 'I can't find a job' as I read on this board...someone who can't find a job might be interested in spending a year on Hawaii logging more time and flying in Hawaii.
If I were single and met the requirements and didn't have enough time to get a better job, I'd be all over this.
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Career instructing
I am not alluding to your comments or those of any others; as someone whose only professional aviation experience was flight instructing and as someone who worked in three well-known 141 schools, be assured that respect given flight instructors is in dreadfully short supply.
Most people hear only of the typical entry-level type of instructing job, such as low-timers who are hired by their schools, mom and pop FBOs, and the like. But there are other, lesser-known schools that accord instructors the status they deserve in terms of pay, benefits and respect. Two quick examples include the following:
AirStaff, Inc., (International Flight Training Academy), in Bakersfield, California. This school primarily trains students for All Nippon Air, but also has trained for other airlines, such as Alitalia. Equipment includes well-maintained A36 Bonanzas and B58 Barons. The facilities are state-of-the-art. So's the pay; I believe it is at least $30K to start; probably more, and, I believe they top out at $50K-$60K+.
Airline Training Center Arizona in Phoenix (Goodyear), Arizona trains Lufthansa pilots. I probably should have put it first because IFTA is a clone of ATCA. Pay is similar.
My point in listing these schools is they seek career instructors or those willing to commit to the long term. They treat their people well and pay them well. So, why not instruct as a career under these circumstances?
Just food for thought. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with your flying.
You would be surprised, if the compensation, benefits and respect accorded thereto were appropriate.labbats said:
I am not alluding to your comments or those of any others; as someone whose only professional aviation experience was flight instructing and as someone who worked in three well-known 141 schools, be assured that respect given flight instructors is in dreadfully short supply.
Most people hear only of the typical entry-level type of instructing job, such as low-timers who are hired by their schools, mom and pop FBOs, and the like. But there are other, lesser-known schools that accord instructors the status they deserve in terms of pay, benefits and respect. Two quick examples include the following:
AirStaff, Inc., (International Flight Training Academy), in Bakersfield, California. This school primarily trains students for All Nippon Air, but also has trained for other airlines, such as Alitalia. Equipment includes well-maintained A36 Bonanzas and B58 Barons. The facilities are state-of-the-art. So's the pay; I believe it is at least $30K to start; probably more, and, I believe they top out at $50K-$60K+.
Airline Training Center Arizona in Phoenix (Goodyear), Arizona trains Lufthansa pilots. I probably should have put it first because IFTA is a clone of ATCA. Pay is similar.
My point in listing these schools is they seek career instructors or those willing to commit to the long term. They treat their people well and pay them well. So, why not instruct as a career under these circumstances?
Just food for thought. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with your flying.
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Well said. I never thought of it that way, until some of the above posters mentioned the other options. Everyone has their own niche in aviation and I'm finding more and more ideas as I go.
Nevertheless, I'm so focused on 1200tt that I jump on anything less than timebuilding. For that I apologize.
Nevertheless, I'm so focused on 1200tt that I jump on anything less than timebuilding. For that I apologize.
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Career instructor respect
Aside from my first-hand knowledge of IFTA (AirStaff) in Bakersfield and ATCA in Phoenix (I interviewed and/or visited both), I heard from a friend the other day who has instructed at both. He told me a very interesting story.
He told me that ATCA flight instructors had Lufthansa pass privileges (now, how's that for a benefit?) and he had used his to fly to Germany. The captain heard that he was on the flight. My friend said that the captain came back to where he was sitting, introduced himself, and asked him to come forward and sit in the jumpseat and watch them execute the approach!
Now, how's that for a show of respect? This was before 911 and might not happen as such these days, but it was the gesture that counted.
I can offer some proof about the respect that can be given to career and/or committed flight instructors who work for the right kind of organizations.
Aside from my first-hand knowledge of IFTA (AirStaff) in Bakersfield and ATCA in Phoenix (I interviewed and/or visited both), I heard from a friend the other day who has instructed at both. He told me a very interesting story.
He told me that ATCA flight instructors had Lufthansa pass privileges (now, how's that for a benefit?) and he had used his to fly to Germany. The captain heard that he was on the flight. My friend said that the captain came back to where he was sitting, introduced himself, and asked him to come forward and sit in the jumpseat and watch them execute the approach!
Now, how's that for a show of respect? This was before 911 and might not happen as such these days, but it was the gesture that counted.
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