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TheInsider

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Wonder how that little airline can get out of this one and what it means to their pilots.

SECTION 1 – JOB SECURITY
Holding Company Letter
The letter binds MAIR Holdings to all of the provisions of Section 1. All of the flying
performed for MAIR Holdings, Inc.—not just Mesaba Aviation—must be performed by
pilots on the Mesaba Pilot Seniority List. The only exception to this provision is for Big Sky,
but Big Sky is explicitly limited to operating aircraft with 19 seats or less. All other flying
belongs to Mesaba’s pilots. The Letter allows MAIR Holdings, Inc. to set up a separate
subsidiary so that it can bid for flying outside the Northwest Airlink Agreement, but in
accordance with the terms of the Letter, the separate subsidiary must be staffed with pilots on
the Mesaba Pilot Seniority List and the Mesaba Pilot Agreement applies. In other words,
there could be a subsidiary of Holdings that performs flying for UAL, but only pilots on our
seniority list could do that flying, and all of the terms of our collective bargaining agreement
would apply. A pilot flying for the Northwest Airlink subsidiary will be entitled to bid and
be awarded positions on the United Express subsidiary and vice versa. Stated another way,
no matter how many subsidiaries exist, there will be one contract and one seniority list.
Scope
All flying done for Mesaba Aviation and MAIR Holdings must be done by pilots on the
Mesaba Seniority List (subject to the Big Sky 19 seats or less exception). Our current
contract only governs “revenue passenger” flying, and does not require that cargo operations
or ferry flying, and the like, be performed by our pilots. The new language does.
 
It means the company only bought it as a pawn to be used against the mesaba pilot group. I am truly sorry for the 48+ pilots over there. I still would be willing to fight for them to get on our senority list.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt' Big Sky just Metroliners? So wouldn't that put them under the less-than-19-seat clause?
 
labbats said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt' Big Sky just Metroliners? So wouldn't that put them under the less-than-19-seat clause?

Re-read the post. It's 19 seats or less, not less than 19 seats.

OOramperpilot
 
Big sky signed thier contract with CRJ rates.. Not as bad as Mesa but close enough..

MSA did the right thing to paint Big Sky into a corner, MAIR cannot use them to whipsaw (a common NWA tatic)...
 
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This is nothing new in the airline industry. I don't think anyone of the pilots at BigSky were surprised. We all hoped for something better but ultimately I think we all knew we would be looking for jobs. Business is business. It seems as though most of the companies out there are after one thing. Revenue at any cost as long as the $cost is low. Employees are worthless apparently.

Based on the TA it looks like we couldn't even be part of your seniority list even if we wanted, due mostly the the fact that it stated that we remain UTU in addition to the above mentioned.
 
Hey Somebody call Mesa's MEC..

and tell them how you did it. It seems that they are interested in 1) Partying with members dues money. 2) Skiing with JO at his slave labor palace in TEX. 3) They seem to be attracted to shiny things. ....#3 seems to be the weak spot, can you help them out?
 

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