Boston Base

[CancelIFR1200]

Any Ideas on who might be looking to start up a Boston Crew Base, CHQ or ASA???

Thanx in Advance

 

[General Lee]

I bet ASA---but CHQ could cross utilize their pilots there with USAir and DCI....I still think ASA will get it. We are spending a lot of money (adding to our debt---it's the pilots' fault) for a new terminal---and I think Delta will put a wholly-owned up there to rake in as much revenue as possible......But, of course I could be wrong...Even me.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[shamrock]

CHQ or ASA???

Comair.

Seems to me that we (ASA) have been losing just about all our northeast flying. It seems like it would be a lot easier for Comair to either fly through BOS or have a base there.

I also wonder about how suited the CRJ would be for some of the legs out of BOS. Having never flown an ERJ, I am curious if they work better on legs under 300 miles. ASA leans heavily on the ATR for places like CHA, CSG, and AGS out of ATL and along the same lines you have BTV, PWM and BGR out of BOS. I would definitely rather see ASA or Comair get the flying over CHQ (sorry guys) but I wonder who would work out better.

 

[MedFlyer]

The one advantage that CHQ has is equipment for some of the thinner hops. Routes like BOS-YHZ and BOS-YFC don't need a real big plane. The smallest thing ASA has is a 40 seater (which isn't really a true 40 seater anyway), while CHQ has a true 37 seater in the 135.

DL has always talked about building up BOS big, but its always fizzled. I noticed that they recently chopped BOS-EWR and BOS-YUL (both flown by ACA), so it's hard to tell how much growth BOS will really experience (except to replace ACA).

Maybe DL will really start expanding once the new terminal finally opens.

 

[jaybird]

With all the talk about ASA possibly voting for a strike with the upcoming negotiations. Wouldn't it be foolish for DAL to award them all those RFP aircraft and a new base?

 

[e120pilot]

Jaybird,

Who's talking about a strike at ASA? We're still in Interest Based Bargaining. If things were going that bad, we would already be in a traditional bargaining mode. Our negotiations are going slower than many of us would like, but we're not even in the ballpark of a strike yet.

I don't think DCI can run their entire business plan based off of who's in pilot negotiations. It certainly is a factor in a lot of things, but I don't think it's as big as many on this board believe.

As far as the latest rumor.....I've also heard the 34 new RJ's with a BOS base. Hopefully we'll all get some answers soon!

 

[inflight]

CHQ is taking over Northeast, ASA is moving to DFW but there CRJ-70 are stating in ATL, Comair is moving some operation to ATL and ACA's Dojets are all moving to CVG.....This is from a Comair station manager that just got back from a meeting.

 

[jaybird]

Jaybird,

Who's talking about a strike at ASA? We're still in Interest Based Bargaining. If things were going that bad, we would already be in a traditional bargaining mode. Our negotiations are going slower than many of us would like, but we're not even in the ballpark of a strike yet.

I don't think DCI can run their entire business plan based off of who's in pilot negotiations. It certainly is a factor in a lot of things, but I don't think it's as big as many on this board believe.

As far as the latest rumor.....I've also heard the 34 new RJ's with a BOS base. Hopefully we'll all get some answers soon!

I just meant some people were talking about strike issues. Sorry to get ahead.

 

[RegionalFA]

CHQ still has a crew room there with a computer and equipment still in it. CEO has talked for a while now that there may be some interest in reopening our BOS base.


Just some info, not that it means anything.

 

[701EV]

I think it would depend on the loads?

The CRJ700 makes as much money as the ATR72 on short haul markets.

So it could be Comair or ASA?

701EV

 

[ilinipilot]

Question :
Is there enough traffic in the northeast corridor to warrant a third regional feeding? I know Eagle flies all over there with E-135, and there are various operators out there that supplement, feed, complement those routes with Beech 1900s, J-31s, Saabs. Just wondering what loads are like.
I also would think it would be easier for an Eagle to do better than a Delta feeder bc AA has more traffic out of BOS i.e. transcons, LHR, CDG, SJU, etc etc. Just wondering same with USAirways having a greater presenence there.
Lastly isnt space an issue at Logan right now. I was flying on Midwest on Wed and noticed how they had to feed the DoJets into the parking spots at Terminal C looks like they could not have much room for anything.

D

 

[PositiveRate]

CHQ is taking over Northeast, ASA is moving to DFW but there CRJ-70 are stating in ATL, Comair is moving some operation to ATL and ACA's Dojets are all moving to CVG.....This is from a Comair station manager that just got back from a meeting.

I would have to agree that this is the most realistic scenario presented, although the extent to CHQ "taking over the Northeast" could be interpreted many different ways.

We've been hearing a lot of rumours about a Comair ATL base announcement very soon. Those DoJets are anyone's best guess.

All I want to know is when is that SLC base coming? Oh right...never....sigh.

 

[jegermeister]

You are right about ASA using ATR's for sub 300 mile legs. Why not use them in BOS. Rumor has it that several of our (ASA) senior ATR instructors are moving to the jet. Maybe they know something we have not heard yet. What the heck, since were speculating, I've been told by several people that we test flew a Q400 in Dec. With the leases coming up on the ATR's, what a great replacement to do some Northeast flying.

 

[anon]

Hmmm ... I've been to BOS and I been to SLC...

Let CHQ have BOS ... I'll take SLC anyday!

 

[ASApuppy]

The ATR will never go north. It's all about the ice. Not the greatest plane for it, too many accidents. That is why they fly south and Eagle flies them only in Florida/carib.

The ATR burns about half the fuel of a CRJ-700 on a 300 mile trip and only shows up about 5 minutes behind. It's all about public perception regarding turboprops, but the ATR has a lower cost per seat.

 

[Tim47SIP]

Part of the story

CHQ is taking over Northeast, ASA is moving to DFW but there CRJ-70 are stating in ATL, Comair is moving some operation to ATL and ACA's Dojets are all moving to CVG.....This is from a Comair station manager that just got back from a meeting.

Most of this seems plausible, but you are implying that ASA will move to DFW in it's entirety except for the 70's. The truth is that Most of the 70's will be in ATL with some of them in DFW. The number of 50's moving to DFW will be the same number of 70's that move to ATL. In other words, same number of slots in ATL. An increase in DFW. ASA will not be downsizing it's presence in ATL. Not in the least bit (at least not at this time).

As far as BOS is concerned, let Comair have it. To cold for me. My guess is Chitaco will get more ERJ's to cover ACA's route structure there. Comair will continue to expand in the north east and in ATL markets. ASA will grow in DFW and slowly move west and north west replacing Skywest. This seems to be comensurate with the awards, lines, and hiring numbers. I certainly hope the rumor for the 45 aircraft are true, but I am not holding my breath.