Boarding Pass & Security

[IP076]

Hey,

So, whats the official word? If you're jumpseating or non-reving do you need a boarding pass to get through security

I've seen both...and then this weekend, I saw both at a certain Washington Airport that a favorite low fare carrier serves.

To get to the B or C gates, no one asked for a boarding pass, then, to get to the D gates, I needed a boarding pass! Glad I wasn't in a hurry! Just wondering if there was a standard, or if it was up the rent a cops at the podium (not even TSA agents). Maybe we could start a list of what airports need a boarding pass...you should be able to figure mine out!

 

[Av8rPHX]

When i went thru MSP a couple weeks ago,my airline ID got me thru security just fine. Had the same experience in SAN also. Maybe it was just the rent a cops you ran into at the airport you were at. Ive heard of some airports being a problem for nonrev's and js'ers. Someone should compile a list of those airports...

 

[rvsm410]

Boarding passes

would it not make sense that each airlines Jump seat coordinator add this information to there J/S lists?

Or maybe the unions should write the TSA/FAA and file a formal request to standardize this for all stations....I have seen several larger arpts lately that have employee only security lines, no boarding passes required..

 

[Wankel7]

IAD is cool with just an ID and so was XNA.

Wankel

 

[IP076]

Employee lines are cool... they usually work. Except at this airport.

I'm a 135 guy, so no one knows the name. Everyone asks, why I'm not in "uniform" and I havent answered "cuz I can't jumpseat in Shorts and a Polo shirt" yet! Been thinking of buying a shirt and eppaulets, maybe I'd run into fewer hassles...although, I've run into many pilots who don't wear a uniform while jumpseating.

I think that it would be great if organizations applied pressure to the TSA to standardize this...but, I have a feeling how it would get standardized.

 

[Wankel7]

Yeah, I work for a 135 outfit and I wear a uniform to jumpseat. It works really really well. It also is easier to get the employee discount at the food places

 

[Long Time Gone]

Employee lines are cool... they usually work. Except at this airport.

I'm a 135 guy, so no one knows the name. Everyone asks, why I'm not in "uniform"........

It's not a requirement, anyway. That's the answer. There is no law or reg that requires you to be in uniform to either go thru the employee line, or to jumpseat.

I got stopped in MCO once and was told I needed a boarding pass. It wasn't even TSA....just some cheap hire crap-olah who couldn't even speak English (don't get me started). I told them that they're wrong and went forward to the security screeners. After I was done, I requested to speak with the GSC (Ground Security Coordinator) or the Supervisor on duty. I told him what had just occured and he was miffed at 2 things.......first, that I just walked forward without being questioned again, and second, that I was told that I needed a boarding pass. It is not a TSA rule, nor a policy, to require a boarding pass if you possess a valid Crewmember ID, regardless or where you are.

The next time it happens, ask to speak with the Supervisor on duty. Good luck with the commute.

LTG

 

[apdsm]

I think the TSA did change the rules a few months ago. If the company you work for serves that airport, then you do not need a boarding pass. Otherwise, you do.

 

[flx757]

They even print a list of the airports where this policy is in effect on their website HERE.

However, again...many of these airports have "employee" checkpoints...or if not, simply showing your ID MAY get you through, if your airline serves that airport or concourse. Then again, it may not. It just depends on which low-paid overworked screener the low-paid, overworked pilot just trying to get home runs into.

Man...I'm glad I just drive 20 mins to the airport, then simply pull my vehicle into the Training Center parking lot and walk through the door these days.

 

[Tex-Ex]

hey! read closely before you post links to other pages... that link you provided to the TSA page is their list of airports where PAYING PASSENGERS need to provide both a boarding pass and ID... it is not a list of airports where PILOTS need a boarding pass.

The TSA only requires a pilot non-reving or jumpseating have their crew ID. You DO NOT need to be in uniform... nor did you ever need to be. As stated in an earlier post, most (if not all) problems can be resolved by asking for the supervisor.

There are airports where the $5/hr ID checkers are instructed not to let off-line pilots through without a boarding pass. This is not a TSA rule, but a rule created by the airlines paying for the ID checkers. In San Antonio, Southwest has requested this policy enacted and the security follows it fairly rigidly. TSA says they can do nothing about it as the airlines pay for the $5/hr ID checkers.

I say this... what does the boarding pass matter? If I am going to walk up to the Delta counter and say I want to jumpseat, I have a boarding pass in my hand in less than 2 minutes... no questions asked. What loophole did this close? Where did this increase security? It's meaningless, feel-good rule making. Why should a commuting pilot have to show up 2 hours early to the airport to wait in the ticket line? That only makes for a tired pilot.

 

[737tanker]

It is correct that you are not required to be in uniform to jumpseat or to go through the employee line. However TSA made a recent change to their rules. That change is if your airline doesn't serve the airport that you want to jumpseat out of then you have to go to the ticket counter of the airline that you want to jumpseat on. They will give you a security document (similar to a boarding pass) that will allow you to go through security. TSA's thinking (or what they call thinking) is that if an airline doesn't serve that airport then the screeners won't know what that airlines ID badge look like.

 

[Flyingtoohigh]

TSA's thinking (or what they call thinking) is that if an airline doesn't serve that airport then the screeners won't know what that airlines ID badge look like.

... of course the ticket agent issuing the "boarding pass" knows what a valid ID from any airline looks like? Right... bless the TSA.