Big Sky Scope from the TA

[Simon Says]

Big sky will only be allowed to fly aircraft with 19 seats or less while under MAIR or any other combination therof. Quite a bit of scope protection under MAIR.

more details later......and no we did not get Comair plus 10%

 

[othello]

Simon Says: I have to ask how you know this? Or anyone else for that matter I have heard we the pilots wont get a glimps of the TA until mid week at best.

Do you have an insider connection with the MEC?

 

[TheInsider]

Makes no sense to me

Why will it matter to Mesaba pilots if Big Sky are limited to 19 seat airplanes? If it involves flying for NWA I can understand that Mesaba pilots feel BSA is stepping onto their turf. If it involves flying for any other airline it will not matter to Mesaba pilots at all except it will bring in more dough for MAIR which in turn will give Mesaba AND Big Sky a better future.

 

[sf3boy]

If revenue generated from Mesaba Airlines is then given to Big Sky to grow, while no Mesaba employee benefits from Big Sky, then it hurts Mesaba Airlines employees. Big Sky has, to date, not generated anything but a loss at Mesaba Airlines and MAIR stock holders expense.

 

[xjavro85]

Wow, I hope that big sky scope is true, that would be some very good job security. If it is I suspect MAIR will sell big sky soon or maybe join the two airlines somehow? Any thoughts? Oh yeah and BUMP

 

[othello]

"Why will it matter to Mesaba pilots if Big Sky are limited to 19 seat airplanes?"

I don’t understand that myself.

But the reality is that MAIR bought BSA with profits that the Measba pilots earned.
We are afraid that they will fund further growth for BSA with more of our earnings. Rather than use it for the benefit of the Mesaba employees.

Now how limiting them to 19 seats is going to help anyone I have no clue. We will have to wait and see what the official wording in the TA says and get an inturpation from our MEC.

It seems to me the Ideal situation would be to somehow combine the two I.E. Mesa and what they did with all of there diffrent pilot groups. Some language like.

"All flying under MAIR holdings will be done by pilots on the Mesaba seniority list".

This would allow mesaba pilots the opportunity to grow out side of NWA under the BS certificate. And would give the few pilots that are left at BS the security of a large stable pilot group.

 

[xjavro85]

How could the TA say something along the lines of all MAIR flying is under the mesaba seniority list without changing BS's pilot contract? Just wondering, if it could be done then that would be ideal. Everyone wins but management.

 

[100LL... Again!]

So you'll offer the BSA pilots a staple, or integration?

 

[othello]

"So you'll offer the BSA pilots a staple, or integration?"

Got to go with integration.

1. There is only 50 some of them.

2. They have tried to join ALPA 2x in the past few years and been rejected. BIG mistake on Alpa's behalf. Show them some love.

3. They bring with them a chance for all Mesaba pilots to grow outside NWA.

4. They didnt ask for any of this they landed in the middle of our battle with managment.

5. It would be a rocky way too welcome in a 15 yr capt. handing him a Wt and Balance in the R seat of a SF340.

 

[TheInsider]

Pure speculation

Fact is no one got the slightest clue as to what will happen. To think that there will be a combined senority list is insane. It will never happen. BSA and Mesaba Airlines are two separate airlines for many reasons. We can guess and pull things out of our butts and we still have no clue what they (manament) are up to. So far MAIR have been spending millions on BSA and to think that they will walk away from a multi-miilion commitment is crazy.

 

[TheInsider]

ans besides

and besides no BSA would ever accept to end up at the bottom of a Mesaba senority list.

 

[Shortapp]

December was prfitable for BSA

December was the first profitable month for BSA. BSA has a chance of being a profitable but not with 19seat aircraft. BSA needs bigger and newer equipment.