FAFInbound
Member
- Joined
- Mar 4, 2006
- Posts
- 10
Welcome to Flightinfo.com
- Register now and join the discussion
- Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
- Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
- Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
- Share the passion for aviation
- Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun
Big Sky Living
- Thread starter FAFInbound
- Start date
Welcome to Flightinfo.com
- Register now and join the discussion
- Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
- Invite your friends
- Share the passion of aviation
- Friendliest aviation community on the web
Airlinepilotcentral.com has all the pay rates!
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/big-sky-2005030565.htm
Also does anyone know what is going on with their hiring? A frind of mine is in the pool and wanted to see if he was going to be swimming for a while?
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/big-sky-2005030565.htm
Also does anyone know what is going on with their hiring? A frind of mine is in the pool and wanted to see if he was going to be swimming for a while?
I am not sure when classes will be. I am in the pool also and they said at the interview they thye could be having classes as soon as the end may and as far out as August or September. I am going to call the Chief Pilot this week and as him if there is any idea when classes are. If you would like I will post what he says.
TAWS
RAH crew transport
- Joined
- Apr 21, 2006
- Posts
- 547
I'm willing to say that they are goin' to be swimming for quite some time, seeing as MAIR holding's letter with XJ ALPA was upheld in court. This means that as long as MAIR owns Big Sky, it's only going to fly 19 seats or less = no real expansion. Mesaba mngt can destroy the pilot group at XJ, but they can't start a subsidiary through MAIR, or expand Big Sky above 19 seats, like they would love to, without using Mesaba seniority list pilots. My advice, Big Sky isn't growing, so unless you like sitting in the right seat of a B1900 for the next few years, go elsewhere.
Talked to the Chief pilot last week and he said that they don't know when classes will be. He said that this coming up week will be a big one for up coming classes. They got awarded Pierre SD but Lakes is not pulling out. They are also trying to fly to a couple more places in Colorado. Time will tell. Hoping there is a class by the end of June. Still swimming.
dirtybird
Member
- Joined
- Nov 8, 2005
- Posts
- 18
Fish food
Here's an interesting link for the fellow fishes:
http://www.utu.org/worksite/aviation.cfm
Keep your fingers crossed!
db.
Here's an interesting link for the fellow fishes:
http://www.utu.org/worksite/aviation.cfm
Keep your fingers crossed!
db.
Interesting. My buddy form Lakes said that they are pulling out of Pierre. He called me two days ago. I talked to Stig last week and he said that they are looking at more planes. It seems that BigSky is giving Lakes a run for their money. From what I hear BigSky is going to concentrate on Denver for now. Still treading water. Stay tuned.
The CP said that there is close to no attrition. I believe that there are about 15 or so sitting in the pool now. I interviewed in the end of April and just waiting for a class date. It seems that BigSky is looking to expand. Anyone know if they are CASS or thinking about getting CASS? Thanks.
othello
Well-known member
- Joined
- Nov 30, 2001
- Posts
- 217
[FONT=Arial Black,LB Helvetica Black][SIZE=+1][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Black,LB Helvetica Black][SIZE=+1]Big Sky Airlines expands service[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Trebuchet MS,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva]Missoula, Mont., International Airport will soon have direct service to Portland, Ore., according to the Great Falls Tribune.
Starting June 24, Billings-based Big Sky Airlines will offer two nonstop weekend flights to the Oregon city. The flights will leave Missoula at 10:25 a.m. on Saturdays and Sundays, with return flights landing at 2:40 p.m.
Fares start at $175 one-way, airline officials said.
Horizon Air offered direct flights from Missoula to Portland a couple years ago. Otherwise, air travelers from Missoula have had to fly to Seattle or Salt Lake City to get to the Oregon hub.
The news comes on the heels of new flights from various carriers between Missoula and Salt Lake City, Denver, Las Vegas and Chicago.
"Obviously, it's a positive thing," airport director Chris Jensen said of the recent flight additions. "The big thing for us is the airlines are taking notice of the state of Montana." (This item appeared in the Great Falls Tribune June 12, 2006.)
I found this today. With this and Pierre hopefully there will be something is the near future. Also, With 3 flights out of Grand Island (1 to DEN and the other to Kansas City), if they get the route. There is also Cortez, CO but that sounds like a battle.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Black,LB Helvetica Black][SIZE=+1]Big Sky Airlines expands service[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Trebuchet MS,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva]Missoula, Mont., International Airport will soon have direct service to Portland, Ore., according to the Great Falls Tribune.
Starting June 24, Billings-based Big Sky Airlines will offer two nonstop weekend flights to the Oregon city. The flights will leave Missoula at 10:25 a.m. on Saturdays and Sundays, with return flights landing at 2:40 p.m.
Fares start at $175 one-way, airline officials said.
Horizon Air offered direct flights from Missoula to Portland a couple years ago. Otherwise, air travelers from Missoula have had to fly to Seattle or Salt Lake City to get to the Oregon hub.
The news comes on the heels of new flights from various carriers between Missoula and Salt Lake City, Denver, Las Vegas and Chicago.
"Obviously, it's a positive thing," airport director Chris Jensen said of the recent flight additions. "The big thing for us is the airlines are taking notice of the state of Montana." (This item appeared in the Great Falls Tribune June 12, 2006.)
I found this today. With this and Pierre hopefully there will be something is the near future. Also, With 3 flights out of Grand Island (1 to DEN and the other to Kansas City), if they get the route. There is also Cortez, CO but that sounds like a battle.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial Black,LB Helvetica Black][SIZE=+1]DOT grounds bid by Big Sky Airlines[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Trebuchet MS,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva]Grand Island's new Essential Air Service carrier is Mesa Airlines of Phoenix, according to the Grand Island Independent.
The air carrier proposed to fly twice daily to Omaha -- departing at 5:55 a.m. and 2:45 p.m. and offer once daily departures at 2:35 p.m. to Kansas City. One-way fares are $59 to Kansas City and $49 to Omaha.
"I'm going to reserve comment until the board all gets together," said Central Nebraska Regional Airport Executive Director Mike Olson. "But I will tell you the community is probably going to be disappointed."
The Hall County Airport Authority board met Wednesday morning but didn't yet have news about the air service contract. Olson said he received a phone call from U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel's office at 11:45 a.m. Wednesday giving him notice of the change in air carriers.
As of Wednesday afternoon, Olson had not yet received word from the federal Department of Transportation, which oversees the Essential Air Service (EAS) program. That program pays a subsidy to air carriers to fly in sparsely populated areas that typically would not have air service.
Currently, Grand Island has three-a-day EAS flights to Denver by Cheyenne, Wyo., air carrier Great Lakes Airlines.
The new contract with Mesa Airlines is to go into effect July 1, but that may be pushed back to give the airline time to mobilize.
Olson said there's a chance the Hall County Airport Authority may want to appeal the contract being awarded to Mesa.
"There is an appeal process in place that we are looking into," Olson said.
The airport authority is attempting to schedule a special meeting at 7:30 a.m. either Wednesday or Friday of next week, he said.
During the recent bidding process that airlines undergo to be awarded EAS contracts, there were 11 flight proposals submitted by four different airlines. The Hall County Airport Authority, City of Grand Island and Hall County unanimously supported a bid by Big Sky Airlines of Billings, Mont. that would have flown Grand Island passengers twice a day to Kansas City and once a day to Denver.
Olson said that proposal was apparently rejected by the federal Department of Transportation in order to save money. It appears that DOT combined Grand Island air service with McCook air service in order to save about $400,000 in EAS spending, he said.
Currently Grand Island receives $1.2 million a year and McCook gets $1.5 million. The combined total is $2.7 million, however Mesa bid to serve both communities for $2.29 million.
"At least we got there attention going east," said Grand Island Area Economic Development Corp. President Marlan Ferguson. "But the issue here may be sharing a plane with McCook."
The flights to Omaha originate in McCook, meaning the 19-seat planes could be partially or all full by when they stop in Grand Island, Olson said.
Olson is concerned about the sharing because Grand Island is trying to boost its total air passenger numbers to 10,000 or beyond. That passenger number is critical for Grand Island's airport to remain eligible for Airport Improvement Program funding -- unless that federal program is cut or its eligibility criteria altered.
Olson also is concerned about renting hangar space to Mesa. Hangar rentals are a revenue generator for the airport. Under the Mesa proposal, planes will be kept overnight in McCook and Kansas City.
Another revenue generator for the airport -- a share of fuel sales -- could be in jeopardy with Mesa, Olson said. Fuel sales may occur in McCook, Omaha or Kansas City instead of Grand Island.
Great Lakes has already quit buying the majority of its fuel locally, Olson said. The airport had budgeted to have $50,000 in revenue from its share of fuel sales and will be lucky to hit $30,000, he said.
Ferguson said there is some disappointment and he expects a mixed reaction from area business leaders -- many of whom lobbied mostly for Kansas City and Minneapolis service.
"And there was even some support for Omaha early on," Ferguson said. "But I don't think Omaha is what the majority of businesses want to see. This will have a lot of discussion."
Olson agreed that Omaha is not a highly desired place to fly into.
"Omaha is a dead-end street and we didn't get any support for that destination," Olson said.
Olson hadn't heard what other EAS contracts were awarded in Nebraska. He did not know if Great Lakes Airlines may still be flying westbound from nearby Kearney into Denver. A call to Great Lakes Airlines Chief Executive Officer Chuck Howell was not returned Wednesday.
[/FONT]Damn!!!!!! That is not going to help out with getting a class started.
The air carrier proposed to fly twice daily to Omaha -- departing at 5:55 a.m. and 2:45 p.m. and offer once daily departures at 2:35 p.m. to Kansas City. One-way fares are $59 to Kansas City and $49 to Omaha.
"I'm going to reserve comment until the board all gets together," said Central Nebraska Regional Airport Executive Director Mike Olson. "But I will tell you the community is probably going to be disappointed."
The Hall County Airport Authority board met Wednesday morning but didn't yet have news about the air service contract. Olson said he received a phone call from U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel's office at 11:45 a.m. Wednesday giving him notice of the change in air carriers.
As of Wednesday afternoon, Olson had not yet received word from the federal Department of Transportation, which oversees the Essential Air Service (EAS) program. That program pays a subsidy to air carriers to fly in sparsely populated areas that typically would not have air service.
Currently, Grand Island has three-a-day EAS flights to Denver by Cheyenne, Wyo., air carrier Great Lakes Airlines.
The new contract with Mesa Airlines is to go into effect July 1, but that may be pushed back to give the airline time to mobilize.
Olson said there's a chance the Hall County Airport Authority may want to appeal the contract being awarded to Mesa.
"There is an appeal process in place that we are looking into," Olson said.
The airport authority is attempting to schedule a special meeting at 7:30 a.m. either Wednesday or Friday of next week, he said.
During the recent bidding process that airlines undergo to be awarded EAS contracts, there were 11 flight proposals submitted by four different airlines. The Hall County Airport Authority, City of Grand Island and Hall County unanimously supported a bid by Big Sky Airlines of Billings, Mont. that would have flown Grand Island passengers twice a day to Kansas City and once a day to Denver.
Olson said that proposal was apparently rejected by the federal Department of Transportation in order to save money. It appears that DOT combined Grand Island air service with McCook air service in order to save about $400,000 in EAS spending, he said.
Currently Grand Island receives $1.2 million a year and McCook gets $1.5 million. The combined total is $2.7 million, however Mesa bid to serve both communities for $2.29 million.
"At least we got there attention going east," said Grand Island Area Economic Development Corp. President Marlan Ferguson. "But the issue here may be sharing a plane with McCook."
The flights to Omaha originate in McCook, meaning the 19-seat planes could be partially or all full by when they stop in Grand Island, Olson said.
Olson is concerned about the sharing because Grand Island is trying to boost its total air passenger numbers to 10,000 or beyond. That passenger number is critical for Grand Island's airport to remain eligible for Airport Improvement Program funding -- unless that federal program is cut or its eligibility criteria altered.
Olson also is concerned about renting hangar space to Mesa. Hangar rentals are a revenue generator for the airport. Under the Mesa proposal, planes will be kept overnight in McCook and Kansas City.
Another revenue generator for the airport -- a share of fuel sales -- could be in jeopardy with Mesa, Olson said. Fuel sales may occur in McCook, Omaha or Kansas City instead of Grand Island.
Great Lakes has already quit buying the majority of its fuel locally, Olson said. The airport had budgeted to have $50,000 in revenue from its share of fuel sales and will be lucky to hit $30,000, he said.
Ferguson said there is some disappointment and he expects a mixed reaction from area business leaders -- many of whom lobbied mostly for Kansas City and Minneapolis service.
"And there was even some support for Omaha early on," Ferguson said. "But I don't think Omaha is what the majority of businesses want to see. This will have a lot of discussion."
Olson agreed that Omaha is not a highly desired place to fly into.
"Omaha is a dead-end street and we didn't get any support for that destination," Olson said.
Olson hadn't heard what other EAS contracts were awarded in Nebraska. He did not know if Great Lakes Airlines may still be flying westbound from nearby Kearney into Denver. A call to Great Lakes Airlines Chief Executive Officer Chuck Howell was not returned Wednesday.
[/FONT]Damn!!!!!! That is not going to help out with getting a class started.
The class date is the 21 of July. There may also be a based in Fort Lauderdale, I guess that they are getting more planes for some flights down that way. Does anyone have anymore info on that? Talking with the CP he said that this class is for attrition and the following classes will be for growth. That would be great if they have a couple of classes directly following the 21. See you there.
Share this page
Latest resources
-
-
-
-
-
AC 90-89C - Amateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight Testing HandbookAmateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight Testing Handbook
- Neal
- Updated:
