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slob340

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Stay tuned!

Get ready for a big thread starting ohhhhhhh ummmmm maybe uhhhhhh... Saturday?
 
HOLY GOD NO

I hope not anyway!

I doubt it since all the buzz is (POSITIVE) information.

Nice try though.....

Anyone else?
 
Since management loves us so much and we are one of the top express carriers as far as completion factor and on-time performance goes.....

I bet we get or pay cut back AND Christmas bonuses! Hows that for "positive" news!
 
Who got bonuses...wha? who?


Who's the Senator?...

Hell, I have to pay for a Christmas party if I want to go...WTH's a bonus?


*shrugs* looking for a possible troll, unless I'm a normal mushroom guy...kept in the dark, fed lots of sh*t......

Which is most likely the case as always.....
 
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What??

We're buying CorpEx now?

I just KNEW there was a reason we had a couple of Jetstreams parked in the hangar for the longest time...

:D
 
I heard they just saved a bunch of money on their plane insurance by switching to GIECO.
 
I heard about this too

I'm thinking a new TA to vote on.

I guess we'll know for sure on saturday when our FEDEX packages arrive from the union.
 
Interesting

HMMMMM............I just sent resumes to each company. I wonder what that means for the hiring outlook????
 
This JUST IN.... S.A. is still a contract turbo prop operator for U.S. Airways.

That is all...
 
Wrong Buddy....

We are voting on J4J on Saturday. The paperwork is in the mail (Ballot, Etc) In the new TA, the Captains will also receive their 10% pay cut back... This is NOT a rumor.... It's official and ALL the SA pilots will find out tommorow....


That's Right, Jets....... at Shuttle America.....

What do you think about that Outermarket?


Believe me, it took alot of us here by surprise..
 
j4j is really cashing in for other carriers. Just look at how many j4j jets theyre are at TSA and CHQ now! I mean, wow, you may get 2 jets!!!!

Sorry to sound sarcastic, but im just saying signing up for j4j isnt like signing a deal for 50 RJs tommorrow.
 
Think about all the ramifications of a J4J agreement before voting, especially with an airframe that is on its way out. SA would have to double in size from what you already are in order to keep everyone on the property that is there now. For example if one SAAB goes away then say four SA crews are displaced, yet a J4J carrier is only entitled to two crews on the new aircraft (50% of the CPT and FO positions to the mainline pilots), so SA would end up with a net of minus two crews. I don't know how many SAABs you have now, but I'm guessing it may end up requiring quite a few RJs just to break even for the SA crews on property now. Then again, this may be the only survival option for any SA pilots. My logic of staffing may be off, but that is the way I understand how J4Js works.
 
M.E.P. Any of you SA pilots heard of that? For you Riddle guys, it's not the missed approach point. It means Mainline Entitlement Program. The PDT pilots were the first to sign the MEP (j4j) and still flying the dash. psa was the last of the WO to sign, they get jets... go figure. Just because you sign your life away, don't expect shiny new jungle jets to majically appear in place of the saab.
 
Don't worry, none of us expect any "Jungle Jets" to "majically appear" to replace the Saab.

What I also didn't expect was for you to continue to bug out about contract carriers, since you claim on another thread to have LEFT Piedmont for a great corporate job.

Let it go, man.
 
Ahhhh, yes, fresh air at last. But I will continue to speak with distain and Vitriol regarding contract carriers, especially any of those that went to Potomac to fly our airplanes, use our manuals and Instructors to take our routs.

Just because I am out of the regional side of aviation, i still have many friends at PDT & ALG that I will stand up for on this thread. Airways favors you now not because you are good employees, but rather because you are cheeeeep ones, mesa included. We took the pay cuts, and still got the shaft... Or I would still be there with 3+ years of senority... instead, all the flying goes to contract labor... except psa which is a whole 'nother can of prop wash.
 
CHQ Pilot said:
Think about all the ramifications of a J4J agreement before voting, especially with an airframe that is on its way out. SA would have to double in size from what you already are in order to keep everyone on the property that is there now. For example if one SAAB goes away then say four SA crews are displaced, yet a J4J carrier is only entitled to two crews on the new aircraft (50% of the CPT and FO positions to the mainline pilots), so SA would end up with a net of minus two crews. I don't know how many SAABs you have now, but I'm guessing it may end up requiring quite a few RJs just to break even for the SA crews on property now. Then again, this may be the only survival option for any SA pilots. My logic of staffing may be off, but that is the way I understand how J4Js works.

Remember,

This does not mean that we will start J4J, it just means that we can.

As far as your crew requirement math...
We operate 16 lines of flying right now. Crewed at 3 crews a piece (2.75 crews for a few months). The saabs aren't going back in one big package. It is dipersed through 2006. If this does come to pass, and we finally get a break, no saab crewmember should be furloughed, Calculating attrition, and the fact that it'll be a graduated flow into any jet we may get, even at 50 percent mainline.

Ahhhh, yes, fresh air at last. But I will continue to speak with distain and Vitriol regarding contract carriers, especially any of those that went to Potomac to fly our airplanes, use our manuals and Instructors to take our routs.

Blzr, Wasn't Potomic a w/o, not a contract carrier?
 

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