Baron 58 pilot job

[flying2jd]

Can anybody advise me on what a PIC flying part 91 for a firm in the Northeast should expect for a salary as a full time pilot of a BE58 whom handles all of the responsibilities of the aircraft. Insurance, hangar, maintenance and of course the flying? Flight profiles are passenger transportation and transportation of supplies....

 

[AlabamaMan!!]

How many hours a month are you going to be flying? Year?

Do you have health, dental, etc.?

 

[flying2jd]

I believe I can negotiate medical and dental benefits. I am not certain exactly how much I would fly, but they do want me to be available anytime... I would be a full time employee regardless of flight time but I do anticipate they will want to get full use of their plane.

 

[bigD]

If you're being salaried full time, I believe they're required by law to make benefits available to you within 3 months. At least that's how it is here in Texas. Maybe it differs by state, I dunno.

I'm not sure that I've ever met anyone that flew a 58 on salary, but the contract guys around here (Austin) are pulling about 300-350 a day for that type of plane. Maybe try and guestimate how much you'll be flying, do a little math based on a typical contract rate, and then add some more since you'll essentially be managing the airplane as well.

 

[AlabamaMan!!]

I would say if you try to get more than 40K, you'll be pricing yourself out of the market. The 58 is one of my favorite pistons to fly, but there are a lot of people out there with about the same experience as you that will do it for next to nothing (which makes some owners skeptical of their ability) just to build the time. Remember, that if you do score medical, dental, etc., that stuff costs them much more than you think and would put you at a cost to them of over 50K+, even though you'll get 40K, etc. Don't forget to work out a per diem so you can eat.....or maybe see if you can get "actual expenses" reimbursed.

Maybe I'm totally wrong, but if you go too high early, it'll be tough to ask for more down the road.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

I agree with Alabama.. 350 a/day is more a BE-200 pay

 

[flying2jd]

Thank you all for your advice. This is a great forum and such a huge asset pulling advice from those who have been there and done that.

 

[flyer172r]

This is a great forum and such a huge asset pulling advice from those who have been there and done that.

Yeah, it's nice on the corporate board where you're not getting called a whore every other post.

 

[Geronimo4497]

Whore

 

[bluesky421]

Anybody happen to know what the minimum insurance time would be for a 58? There is an outside chance i could get to fly one part 91, but i dunno that anyone would insure someone with 750tt.

 

[kingaira90]

probably

Anybody happen to know what the minimum insurance time would be for a 58? There is an outside chance i could get to fly one part 91, but i dunno that anyone would insure someone with 750tt.

probably depends on time in type and flightsaftey or other insurance company approved training. I bet you CAN get insurnace, just how much it will cost is the big question. Their are owner pilots with less time and the 25 required hrs with instructor for insurance that do it, but they PAY!-kingaira90

 

[kingaira90]

if you really want to know, call a few insurance companies with your sample info and find out. Can't hurt to call, and then you have real info if you talk to your prospective employer.-kingaira90

 

[pilot1704]

What airport you will be flying from!

How many days of the month you are on call!

I used to fly one from northeast was making 43000$

Nice job usually home for the night,and average around 2-4 trips a week!

Insurance for BE-58 you can get even if you have low time. Some companys wants to send you to school to prevent higher insurance payments , some just pay more money!

If you have previous BE-55, or BE-58 experience insurance should be no problem, don't let them fool you in to training contracts and etc....

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

$400 per day or about $70 per hour plus $25 wait time in the going rate for a BE 58 in the ATL area (PDK). Any of the King Airs are about $500 per day for the PIC and 200 for a "copilot" on something like a 350. There is not a very big gap between the two a/c. Guys at PDK are also getting 350 per day to fly bonanzs, malibus, meridians, etc.

 

[Snakum]

Ours, a B58 flying Part 91 in the Southeast with two or three trips per week and two or three RONS per month, pays $300 per day plus expenses (IIRC ... I don't fly it) and the insurance requres 2000 hours TT, 500 hours ME, 250 hours B58 (not 55) and simulator training.

Locally, I haven't heard of anyone getting a B58 job at 700TT, but that's just me. I guess it's possible, but 1500 TT, and ATP, and time in type seems about average, from what I hear, for part 91.

Minh

 

[bigD]

It boils down to whether or not you're trying to meet the open pilot clause on the insurance, or whether you're going to be named on the policy.

750TT isn't going to meet the open. What Snakum listed are closer to the open pilot mins for a BE-58, although around here they're more like 1500TT, 500ME, and 50 in type. However since you're going to be salaried, it sounds to me like they'd be willing to name you on the insurance, which in that case it really just depends on what they're willing to pay.

 

[FlierDude]

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Call the insurer. Your 750TT and a good school should satisfy the insurer. I fly occasionally for an insurance company, and they work with their clients and underwriters to make it happen.

36K and bennies should be a good starting point. Good luck!


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[Shamus]

My buddy is flying a 2005 BE58 out of S. FL Part 91 and he is making $35K, plus he gets a leased 2005 Jaguar, flying 400 hour a year at 22 years old. Pretty good gig.