B6 or Atlas

[$$$4nothin]

So if you had to guess. Will jetBlue and/or Atlas air cargo be around in 2040. I realize this is a LCC/Cargo question at the same time, but as there is not a section for this, I asked this question in both forums. Thanks for your guess in advance.

 

[hyflyin]

So if you had to guess. Will jetBlue and/or Atlas air cargo be around in 2040. I realize this is a LCC/Cargo question at the same time, but as there is not a section for this, I asked this question in both forums. Thanks for your guess in advance.

Atlas- Yes

Jetblue- will be sucked up by something bigger because of its great route structure and culture.

 

[F9 A319]

2040?

Lots of pilots turned down jobs at United, Delta, etc. to go with Eastern, Pan Am, TWA, etc.

By 2040 there might only be drones flying around the world. And freight lines will probably be the first. Or single pilot, can you imagine flying a 15 hour leg all by yourself (rest time would be enroute on whatever replaces GPS with someone sitting in India monitoring the TCAS and ATC requests). I wonder what they'll be using for fuel then?

I've only been in the airline industry 17 years, 30 years in aviation and the changes have been phenomenal, sadly I can't think or a single thing that has improved for pilots in that time. If I ever get to stop carrying a flight bag, that will be the single improvement I've witnessed in the industry.

Retirement age will be 75 hrs old, which is good because social security will either be gone or start paying at 90.

I'll be fascinated to see what aviation is like 30 years from now, I think I'll be glad I'm reading about it instead of living it.

 

[johnsonrod]

Atlas- Yes

Jetblue- will be sucked up by something bigger because of its great route structure and culture.

Completely agree. Two very different types of flying. I am hearing through the grapevine that Atlas may get some 767s in addition to their big stable of 747s...

 

[hyflyin]

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2040?

Lots of pilots turned down jobs at United, Delta, etc. to go with Eastern, Pan Am, TWA, etc.

By 2040 there might only be drones flying around the world. And freight lines will probably be the first. Or single pilot, can you imagine flying a 15 hour leg all by yourself (rest time would be enroute on whatever replaces GPS with someone sitting in India monitoring the TCAS and ATC requests). I wonder what they'll be using for fuel then?

I've only been in the airline industry 17 years, 30 years in aviation and the changes have been phenomenal, sadly I can't think or a single thing that has improved for pilots in that time. If I ever get to stop carrying a flight bag, that will be the single improvement I've witnessed in the industry.

Retirement age will be 75 hrs old, which is good because social security will either be gone or start paying at 90.

I'll be fascinated to see what aviation is like 30 years from now, I think I'll be glad I'm reading about it instead of living it.

Oil in 2040 (unless there is a VIABLE alternative (ie. NOT CORN)), probably right about carrying a bag (cost and lack of vis on managements part). Pilot-less travel or single pilot (can you say overfly), maybe in a hundred years.

As for age 75, NO WAY! Buy a smaller house, drive your car until it dies, if its good enough for Warren B its good enough for me. Retire at 65 and enjoy those golden years!

Save,save,save!

 

[GOULET!]

Atlas for sure. B6 won't exist in 2040.

 

[Dizel8]

And Atlas will?

Can I borrow your crystal ball, need some lottery mbers for next week?

 

[johnsonrod]

Atlas for sure. B6 won't exist in 2040.

Acquired by Republic in 2016. Mark my words...

 

[BeachBummer]

I thought it was eagle in dec. of 2012?

 

[airjackson]

For what it's worth, I've flown with several ex-Atlas pilots here and know of two in a recent new-hire class who were just out of training at Atlas and came to B6. Not sure how many have moved in the opposite direction.

 

[Singlecoil]

Get hired, then decide. I got turned down by both back in 2000-2001. That was after being absolutely sure both would hire me.

 

[Lake Alice]

Neither.

Jebtlue will be merged with another airline.

Atlas will go out of business.

 

[johnsonrod]

For what it's worth, I've flown with several ex-Atlas pilots here and know of two in a recent new-hire class who were just out of training at Atlas and came to B6. Not sure how many have moved in the opposite direction.

Whatever floats your boat. Some people want more international flying and some people couldn't care less. FWIW, there's a Kalitta 744 FO on these boards who left JB and enjoys his current job. Comes down to personal preference. Having a good job that pays and enjoying it should be the ultimate goal.

 

[Flyby1206]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

 

[spitfire1500]

No brainer... Atlas....travel the world, stay in nice hotels (well mostly nice hotels) get a paid for hotel room if on reserve and the seniority list at Atlas is closer to retiring... Don't let anyone feed you the crap that they will keep you out 34 days in a row...won't happen unless you want it to..

 

[curtaindriver]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

No brainer.....come to Blue. Seriously, living in base.......your QOL will be quite good. Not to mention, even with our own problems, the uncertainty at Eagle right now is worth getting out. Good luck on your decision.

CD

 

[johnsonrod]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

I'd probably go to JB in that situation - if you have an offer in hand and you could live at your base. Not sure what the upgrade time will be at JB.

 

[BeachBummer]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

If you want QOL I would have turned in my two weeks already. Seniority bus left JB about 5-6yrs ago. You will be quite happy hear vs. eagle. As far as getting F'ed down the road, no one knows. It's a leap of faith.

Good Luck!

 

[se1776]

And Atlas will?

Can I borrow your crystal ball, need some lottery mbers for next week?

here you go 123456

 

[Draginass]

Eagle is a dead duck. They can't give it away. I think it's going to get spun-off without the CRJs, and from there die a quick demise. B6 sounds much better.