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Training I thought was very formal. They do a pretty good job for what they have. If everything goes as planned than it should take you about 21 to 25 days of training. First week is Indoc, HR stuff, and Safety stuff like how to use a fire extinguisher, emergency exit. You know, typical stuff. Then you'll drive from St. Pete with your classmates in a rental car to West Palm and attend system ground school at flight safety. That'll be from monday to friday, then on saturday you'll attend a customer service class. You'll drive back on saturday from West palm to St. Pete to begin flight training. This is were things get interesting. You'll basically get paired up with someone and do flight training together. They'll train you in the airplane, which has its benefits and disadvantages. Benefits...you wont get any real V1 cuts, you'll get the "real" feel of the airplane unlike a sim, it was fun as heck too. Disadvantages, you cant get any real failures so alot of stuff the instructors have to explain to ya.
I dont know about you, but i personally have to see something to understand it complertly.
I got all my flight training done in about week. But my partner and i got kinda lucky. We were going to start flight training on monday and didnt do our first flight till wed day. We did our checkrides that saturday but obviously we did 2 flight training sessions in one day. The oral was really laid back. I had a great instructor, his initials are BM. Great guy, really taught me and partner a bunch of stuff about the airplane. Fun to fly with as well, and great personallyty. But either way all the instructors are there to really help you. They all have a great sense of humor, and want to see you pass. IOE is really more for the captains here but if they can fix you up with and OE captain on your first tour then they might do it.
I didnt get an IOE captain, but it was still ok. I have no problems flying the airplane, i was flying a lear before this soe this airplane to me is actually a bit slower. If you did corporate or charter before this job should be pretty easy for ya. if you did airline and nothing else it might take you some getting used to the fact that you have to help with bags and cleaning of the cabin and alot of customer service.
I am really enjoying it here, not only because I got based back home but b/c I think this company has a great future ahead. There are talks about flight attendants and I recently heard about some Larger corporate jets, made in brazil if you know what I mean. So this is the place to be I think if you havent made it to Southwest, Fed Ex or UPS. I like the kind of flying, getting closer to a 7 on 7 schedule instead of the 7.5 & 6.5. They keep you busy through out your whole tour so your week should go by pretty fast.
The training in the airplane is well, what can I say.
Typicall, stalls, maneuvers, know the limitations, systems. If you've been to other trainings like airlines, flight safety, simuflite or what have you. This is no different. The checkride is the same. Take off, maneuvers, ILS A/P on, go missed lose an engine, come back around for a SE ILS hand flown, get the engine back touch and go, and then well two non precision approaches. One GPS and one VOR "green needles" no FMS approach. Like I said, same ol checkride just different compamy and airplane. Hope this helps. Like I said, I like it here and I'm looking forward to the 7/7 schedule, quick upgrade and maybe new type of equipment.
PEACE!
clambdin said:
Training I thought was very formal. They do a pretty good job for what they have. If everything goes as planned than it should take you about 21 to 25 days of training. First week is Indoc, HR stuff, and Safety stuff like how to use a fire extinguisher, emergency exit. You know, typical stuff. Then you'll drive from St. Pete with your classmates in a rental car to West Palm and attend system ground school at flight safety. That'll be from monday to friday, then on saturday you'll attend a customer service class. You'll drive back on saturday from West palm to St. Pete to begin flight training. This is were things get interesting. You'll basically get paired up with someone and do flight training together. They'll train you in the airplane, which has its benefits and disadvantages. Benefits...you wont get any real V1 cuts, you'll get the "real" feel of the airplane unlike a sim, it was fun as heck too. Disadvantages, you cant get any real failures so alot of stuff the instructors have to explain to ya.
I dont know about you, but i personally have to see something to understand it complertly.
I got all my flight training done in about week. But my partner and i got kinda lucky. We were going to start flight training on monday and didnt do our first flight till wed day. We did our checkrides that saturday but obviously we did 2 flight training sessions in one day. The oral was really laid back. I had a great instructor, his initials are BM. Great guy, really taught me and partner a bunch of stuff about the airplane. Fun to fly with as well, and great personallyty. But either way all the instructors are there to really help you. They all have a great sense of humor, and want to see you pass. IOE is really more for the captains here but if they can fix you up with and OE captain on your first tour then they might do it.
I didnt get an IOE captain, but it was still ok. I have no problems flying the airplane, i was flying a lear before this soe this airplane to me is actually a bit slower. If you did corporate or charter before this job should be pretty easy for ya. if you did airline and nothing else it might take you some getting used to the fact that you have to help with bags and cleaning of the cabin and alot of customer service.
I am really enjoying it here, not only because I got based back home but b/c I think this company has a great future ahead. There are talks about flight attendants and I recently heard about some Larger corporate jets, made in brazil if you know what I mean. So this is the place to be I think if you havent made it to Southwest, Fed Ex or UPS. I like the kind of flying, getting closer to a 7 on 7 schedule instead of the 7.5 & 6.5. They keep you busy through out your whole tour so your week should go by pretty fast.
The training in the airplane is well, what can I say.
Typicall, stalls, maneuvers, know the limitations, systems. If you've been to other trainings like airlines, flight safety, simuflite or what have you. This is no different. The checkride is the same. Take off, maneuvers, ILS A/P on, go missed lose an engine, come back around for a SE ILS hand flown, get the engine back touch and go, and then well two non precision approaches. One GPS and one VOR "green needles" no FMS approach. Like I said, same ol checkride just different compamy and airplane. Hope this helps. Like I said, I like it here and I'm looking forward to the 7/7 schedule, quick upgrade and maybe new type of equipment.
PEACE!
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Are they hard and fast on their minimums? I only have 700 multi and the last I saw they want 1000. I have over 3000 total and 600 turbine SIC, but I am a few hundred short of their multi requirements. I am sending out resumes to fractionals and I meet the mins for NetJets and FlexJet, but I want to go to Avantair due to upgrade and multible bases. Think I would be hireable there?
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Philerup said:
I am going to be completly honest with ya, I really dont know. I know they are really strict on the total time, but I figure if you're 300 hours short of their multi req but exceed the total time &/or turbine requirement you should be ok.
OOOOOHHH wait, I think you should be ok, I just remembered that I know two guy there that are ex-marine pilots with about 3500tt and like 200 multi, but they got hired b/c all their time is pretty much turbine/jet and military time. So I would assume that if you have good quality time but aslong as you exceed the Total time mins, then you should be ok.
Good luck
The only way to find out is to send in your resume!
I think most of what they look at is what type of time you have vs. amount. Unlike the past they are looking and hiring people who are ready to sit in the left seat from day one.
In addition at this time it is very hard to get hired w/o your ATP. As of recent the quality of the aplicants have been very high. I think in my class the average tt was 5000+ with the low guy at 2600 and the guy with the most time was 14,000+ if I recal. I believe that all of us had prior 121 or 135 PIC experience.
Best of Luck!
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I think most of what they look at is what type of time you have vs. amount. Unlike the past they are looking and hiring people who are ready to sit in the left seat from day one.
In addition at this time it is very hard to get hired w/o your ATP. As of recent the quality of the aplicants have been very high. I think in my class the average tt was 5000+ with the low guy at 2600 and the guy with the most time was 14,000+ if I recal. I believe that all of us had prior 121 or 135 PIC experience.
Best of Luck!
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I was just hired with about 3000 total time, 1200 multi including 700 Lear SIC. The interviewer told me I was competitive because I had 135 experience, Lear experience (apparently the Piaggios fly like a Lear), and that I lived in the DFW base (they are trying to hire more non-Florida base guys).
Seems like a superb company, the interview was fair and to the point. I sure like the idea of working for a company that has some of the fastest and most FUEL EFFICIENT airplanes, especially with the cost of oil now.
By the way, are you Avantair guys having to wear a uniform or are you able to get away with a business casual type getup????
Seems like a superb company, the interview was fair and to the point. I sure like the idea of working for a company that has some of the fastest and most FUEL EFFICIENT airplanes, especially with the cost of oil now.
By the way, are you Avantair guys having to wear a uniform or are you able to get away with a business casual type getup????
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CherryBomb said:
You and I are pretty alike. Except that when they hired me I only had about 2800 TT, Elizabeth told me even though I was a bit low on the total time the 750 hours in a lear, UNS experience, glass experience and 135 made me competitive. And yeah it is similar to the lear in some aspects. But not toooo similar, one thing I can tell you is that you can handle a lear you can sure a heck handle a lear. This airplane is very fast and efficient but it's not nearly as "agressive" as the lear, so you'll be ok for sure.
Oh yeah, and yes we do wear the shirt, tie and epaulets. I really wish that all we wore was a nice polo type shirt and nice pants. That would be awsome.
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