ATP written

[RemoveB4Flght]

Well it's about time i get the damn thing out of the way... has anyone had any experience with those one day programs like the one All-ATP advertises for $300, is it worth the cheese or is it basically what you would get out of spending a weekend with the Gleim.. it's my understanding the just give you access to a computer program right?

 

[Wiggums]

$300 is quite a bit of coin for something you could get for free. Somebody you know probably has the ATP book hanging around. A week of reading it online should get the 70%.

 

[pilotyip]

After you pass it, take a SEL ATP ck ride, you never have to take the test again. I did it in 1977, easiest ck ride I ever flew, did it with a fed. less than an hour for the entire ck ride, after all there is only one engine failure manuver, it quits you land.

 

[Huggyu2]

After you pass it, take a SEL ATP ck ride,...

Good advice.

 

[OPECJet]

It is good advice, but the test does not expire as long as you work for a 121 operator.

 

[Morettis]

Don't waste your money with All ATPs.

I used http://sheppardair.com/ and with a total of about 10 hours studying, I got a high 90's on the test. only 75 bucks

 

[MALSR]

What he said^ its only $75.00. I heard its just as good as all atp.

 

[A-V-8]

www.sheppardair.com is the way to go. Study from home for lots cheaper than All ATPs. Make less than 90 and they give you your money back.

Also they have an ATP memorization guide. That will get you through about half of the test. It use to be available on their website to anyone but they just restricted it to paying subscribers only.

You could complete it in a day if you wanted to hurry but having 3 or 4 days in a row should get you a very good score.

You also can take practice test on their website to see where you stand.

 

[woutlaw]

I reviewed the ASA test prep book and used the faatest.com software for practice tests (I think it's $25-30).

The ASA book was nice because it comes with the FAA diagrams, charts, etc... in a separate volume, which makes it a little easier than using the charts on a computer screen.

And you can take it into the bathroom with you.

As for the test itself, well, if I were going to do it again I'd probably just memorize the flight planning questions to save time. I got five of them when I took mine last week. Those five took the better part of an hour to get through.

I just saved the flight planning and w&b questions until the end because they're so time consuming, answered everything else before working the w&bs then hit the flight planning ones in the time left over.

If you have an electronic E6B that'll help. I rolled the dice and used my old manual one, which doesn't really have the resolution needed to properly solve the flight planning questions. (One of the questions had each answer only one minute apart. Crazy.)

 

[COOPERVANE]

The ONLY advantage you will get with Allatps is that they pare down the database of questions you cram for to include ONLY the part 121 questions. Only 800 or so instead of 1200-1400?

The gleim book contains 121 and 135 questions.

Study the gleim for a week or two and maybe retain some of the information. Study at ATP for 6 hours, get a 95 and remember NOTHING 1 day later.

I'm a little embarassed to say I did it at ATP. Got a 100 but would have made a 60 a week later. Is THAT better than studying? Probably not. Do the studying on your own!!

 

[Hulk Hogan]

Sheppard Air is the way to go. Did my FE written with this program and had no probs after 2 - 3 days of reading q's. Probably could do it in less time but ...

 

[LearLove]

o for the millionith time - go get the gleim (or whatever book you like) study the questions until you know the answer before you finish the question then go take the test. $30 for book, $65 for test, $5 gas - $100 total for ATP written.

Then (if you don't think you'll upgrade in 2 years) do like Yip says. Get the SEL ATP. Say 2 hours with an instructor in a C-172 (plane+instructor 120/hr) is $240. One hour for the exam plus DE fee (90 for plane + 250 for DE) is $340.

So 100 for written, then 240 for training, then 340 for SEL ATP ride is $680 or about $700 and your done and can put ATP on the resume before you upgrade incase your trying to jump ship early - however inlight of age 65 good luck.