ATP W/Fractional

[Gator1999]

but it will cost you another $300.00.

Ouch...

 

[IADBLRJ41]

Thanks guys for the advice!!!

 

[guido411]

Stop This Pft!!!

Not a deal breaker, but it will cost you another $300.00.

$300 for a written test?!!
$2,000 for an ATP checkride?!!

You people are payin' to fargin' much for your training!! The big idea is to have others pay for your time while you GET paid. Considering paying $300 for a writen test that can be hacked out at the local FBO for $80 is ASININE!! And going to this ATP school for two grand. . .c'mon! Guys, if you have any skill whatsoever you can pass this ride. You rent a twin from the local FBO (may have to buy the CFI's seat for insurance) have him play safety pilot while you shut one down on the ILS and THAT'S IT!! Now you rent the plane one more time, meet the local examiner at the FSDO, don't pay for the DE that you can "buy" your ride from, and fly your 1.5 and fly off with a ticket.

The way I see it. . .1.5 practice, 1.5 checkride, 1.0 deadheading plane to FSDO and back at approximately $200 per hour = $800 total.

You can self-endorse for the ATP, this AllATP thing is a wolf in wolf's clothing. You don't need them to teach you what you should ALREADY KNOW if you're riding in a jet, left OR right seat!

As for the NetJets requiring an ATP for insurance, I doubt that. We frax train so much that insurance should be no problem at all. BUT, the owners are contractually garunteed a "Captain Qualified" pilot in both seats. Hence the need for an ATP.

I haven't looked at the req's for the frax in a while, are they saying they require the ATP now? I always remember just the written being required since your type ride will be an ATP ride. If they require an ATP now instead of just the written it's for one reason: weed people (RJ SIC's) out. If this is the case and it DOES say ATP and not just written, go get it. But don't spend $2,500 to do it. . .remember your only going to be making about $25,000 your first few years.

 

[Guitar Guy]

As for the NetJets requiring an ATP for insurance, I doubt that. We frax train so much that insurance should be no problem at all. BUT, the owners are contractually garunteed a "Captain Qualified" pilot in both seats. Hence the need for an ATP.

I haven't looked at the req's for the frax in a while, are they saying they require the ATP now? I always remember just the written being required since your type ride will be an ATP ride. If they require an ATP now instead of just the written it's for one reason: weed people (RJ SIC's) out. If this is the case and it DOES say ATP and not just written, go get it. But don't spend $2,500 to do it. . .remember your only going to be making about $25,000 your first few years.

Guido - go look at the NetJets website. It clearly states that the ATP is required. In fact, here's the info directly from the NetJets website:


To qualify as a NetJets Aviation (Citation, Hawker, Falcon, Gulfstream 200, Boeing aircraft) pilot candidate you must have the following prerequisites:

• Airline Transport Pilot Certificate
• Current FAA First Class Medical certificate
• 2500 hours total pilot time
• 500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time
• 250 hours instrument time

It doesn't say "...or ATP written". And like I said, I actually asked the question myself and got the answer during my interview. The ATP certificate is indeed required at NetJets prior to the interivew.