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It's not just a fight over FAA funding...


ATA Requests 'Temporary' Flight Delay Relief Around NYC

Tue, 03 Jul '07
Organization Wants Restrictions On Corporate Flights

Continuing its public campaign to convince the traveling public that increased general aviation traffic is at least partly responsible for airline delays, on Monday the Air Transport Association requested the Federal Aviation Administration create temporary additional airspace capacity over the upcoming holiday period, by imposing ground delay programs at Teterboro Airport and other nearby general aviation airports when the agency imposes such programs at Newark Liberty International Airport, LaGuardia International Airport and John F. Kennedy International Airport.
In other words, ATA wants ground delays forced on the airlines, to apply to GA traffic, too... even if those planes aren't flying from Class B airports.
"The New York City metropolitan-area airspace is completely saturated and near gridlock," said ATA President and CEO James May, adding commercial airlines cancel hundreds of flights and inconvenience thousands of travelers due to air traffic control constraints, and strong summer thunderstorm activity.
"More than one-third of all air traffic delays in the country on June 28 were in congested New York airspace," he added.
According to the ATA, corporate flights now represent roughly 30 percent of all New York Terminal Radar Approach Control activity... and the organization has asked the FAA to impose restrictions on operators that may be currently unaffected by ground delay programs.

MSNBC reports corporate and commercial aircraft alike are subjected to the same delay programs at airports such as JFK, LGA and EWR, but the system does not apply to what it terms 'specialist airports' such as TEB.
A spokeswoman for the FAA told the Associated Press the agency would consider the ATA's proposal, but says there are several other items in the works to relieve the air congestion in the New York City area.
The ATA also asked the FAA to accelerate ATC modernization and airspace redesign around New York City, noting that congestion is likely to worsen as the system deteriorates further.
 
It's not just a fight over FAA funding...


ATA Requests 'Temporary' Flight Delay Relief Around NYC

Tue, 03 Jul '07
Organization Wants Restrictions On Corporate Flights

Continuing its public campaign to convince the traveling public that increased general aviation traffic is at least partly responsible for airline delays, on Monday the Air Transport Association requested the Federal Aviation Administration create temporary additional airspace capacity over the upcoming holiday period, by imposing ground delay programs at Teterboro Airport and other nearby general aviation airports when the agency imposes such programs at Newark Liberty International Airport, LaGuardia International Airport and John F. Kennedy International Airport.

In other words, ATA wants ground delays forced on the airlines, to apply to GA traffic, too... even if those planes aren't flying from Class B airports.
"The New York City metropolitan-area airspace is completely saturated and near gridlock," said ATA President and CEO James May, adding commercial airlines cancel hundreds of flights and inconvenience thousands of travelers due to air traffic control constraints, and strong summer thunderstorm activity.
"More than one-third of all air traffic delays in the country on June 28 were in congested New York airspace," he added.
According to the ATA, corporate flights now represent roughly 30 percent of all New York Terminal Radar Approach Control activity... and the organization has asked the FAA to impose restrictions on operators that may be currently unaffected by ground delay programs.

MSNBC reports corporate and commercial aircraft alike are subjected to the same delay programs at airports such as JFK, LGA and EWR, but the system does not apply to what it terms 'specialist airports' such as TEB.
A spokeswoman for the FAA told the Associated Press the agency would consider the ATA's proposal, but says there are several other items in the works to relieve the air congestion in the New York City area.
The ATA also asked the FAA to accelerate ATC modernization and airspace redesign around New York City, noting that congestion is likely to worsen as the system deteriorates further.


Sounds like a socialist idiot. The wealthy passengers on the private airplanes flying out of TEB, HPN, ISP, FOK, etc. likely pay more in tax money than all of the airline passengers combined flying out of EWR, LGA and JFK. Tell Jimmy May to go back to Havana....
 
Geez, all of those private cars on the highway sure mess things up for the buses. Wonder what we can do about that ?
 
Classic airline management! Create a problem all on their own then expect someone else to pay to fix their conundrum.
 
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your Captain. As you can see we have stopped just short of our arrival gate. Please be assured that the gate is not occupied by another aircraft due to our hub-and-spoke system that crams all of our aircraft into the exact same airport at the exact same time. Unfortunately, we are waiting for a corporate fat cat over in Teteboro airport in his fancy GV to depart for Paris, as soon as he departs we will be cleared to our vacant gate so that you may disembark an hour late as usual. Please feel free to write your congressman or congresswoman about the injustice you have experienced today so that the legislative process can someday soon better serve your travel needs by restricting all corporate aircraft operations so that next time you can deplane only 59 minutes late. Once again, on behalf of Cluster *uck airlines, we wish to thank you for flying with us today and we hope to serve your future travel needs."

barf.
 
New York has been doing this for a long time. I've sat on the ground in PHL waiting to have my 'route' approved to go to SYR. After 40 mins, I just went low alt. They do the same while we sit on the groung in HPN and TEB. We go when they can find room.
 
Hmmmmmm, I don't remember a time when LGA, EWR and JFK were experiencing ground stops and the GA airports weren't. Last I checked it's a free country. Oh and when some of those RJ's are booked to 15 or less people they should get automatically ground stoped also since they're carry GA sized loads. I mean what's the difference.
 
Actually I have a better idea how about they ban all airlines with less than a 100 seats and make the airlines reduce frequency and then the airlines might even be able to charge more. You can ban GA as much as you want the airlines are to blame for most of the congestion.
 

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