ASA rumor

[ASARJMan]

Now watch his lapdog, Joey Merchant, come try and defend him! Should be fun and interesting, not!

 

[JoeMerchant]

No support. Looks like you are giving alot of support. Why do you want to undermine our union? Yes you are a part also. We are in tuff times now and need everyone to step up. The only way to "deal with the reality we have created for ourselves", is get this thing over, get some scope, and put this whole ugly mess behind us.

Everyone needs to fly the contract. Stop all this whining on the radio. It makes me sick, and it should you also.

I don't want to undermine the union, it is doing that on it's own. ALPA has been a failure on the scope front and it is time we admit it so that we can change it. Fix the union first, then we can start fixing the contracts.....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Fin's

You are SO right!

Maybe we can dream that one day ALPA will wake up and smell the coffee

701EV

701EV and Fins,
ALPA will never smell the coffee until we throw it in their face.... until then it will be status quo.....

Are we ready to throw hot scalding coffee in ALPA's face?

 

[JoeMerchant]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

When John invents something useful someday, I'll agree with that statement. Until that day, you're nucking futs Fins.

Has ALPA come up with anything useful?

1. Brand scope: NO

2. Barriers to entry: NO

3. Transportability of seniority: NO

4. Minimum contract standards: NO

What has ALPA done for us? I have solutions, you just don't like them..... does ALPA have any solutions?????

 

[JoeMerchant]

Because, I'm simply not taking it out of context. The claim is written in very clear language. The result of a victory by the plaintiffs would be the destruction of effective scope language. I know that's not what you want, but that's what this lawsuit will bring if they're successful. (I'm not actually worried about this, because I honestly don't think that there's any chance that they'll win)

PCL 128, please quote the relief section that you believe would do away with scope..... it simply isn't true....

 

[MELIT]

Oh please--get a life---you know only way to have job sec. is be with Skywest---I vote for ONE LIST, does well for Republic, Freedumb/Mesa*s

I'm sure SkyWest wouldn't mind stapling you to the bottom.

 

[Speedtape]

Never happen again 601.... most regional pilots are just passing thru..... I participated in '98, and tried again in 2001 during the CMR strike.... no support anymore... deal with the reality we have created for ourselves rather than living in the past..... I don't "need" this job, but I am smart enough not to just give it up for some mythical union "brotherhood".... There won't be a strike, and there won't be a '98 campaign... now what 601....

YOU HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF BEING A QUITTER! I VOTED FOR YOU ONCE--MY MISTAKE! I DON'T WANT YOU ON MY TEAM!

 

[ASARJMan]

YOU HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF BEING A QUITTER!

And that was verified with the recent elections where "his team" of LJ and company were soundly sent packing.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Not a snowball's chance in hell. Bet you the final claim is dismissed before the end of the year.



Yes, it has....on Mr. Haber. He's made quite a bit of money off of this ridiculous lawsuit.

A positive effect on the profession or the Association? Nope. All this lawsuit has done is further divide the mainline pilots from the regional pilots.



Oh crap, I think I'm gonna be sick! uke:



If the plaintiffs win anything (the only claim left is the DFR claim that seeks an end to "predatory" scope language), then there won't be any decent jobs for you to find. As I've been telling you for years, a victory by Ford and Cooksey will mean the end of all effective scope language ALPA-wide. In other words, there won't be any desirable jobs left. Every single carrier will be free to RFP every single airplane. No longer will RFPs be limited to Barbie-jets and Jungle-jets! No, Skywest and Go Jet will now be bidding on that 76ER flying. Mesa and Republic can race to the bottom of the 777 payscale! Yes, a truly wonderful world that the RJDC envisions for all of us.

P.S. I'm bringing back your favorite avatar, Fins! :beer:

I would expect no less from a Pinnacle Status Rep and a member of ALPA's Board of Directors. You just keep drinking that kool-aid, beating the drum, and jumping when they tell you to jump, PCL. We'll see what your loyalty gets YOU in a few years.

The ASA MEC was probably the most loyal in the Association. And they have been left behind. Besides funding, national has done noting for the ASA pilots, and our contract has become nothing but a selling point to organize the Skywest and Colgan pilots. Now ALPA is pushing the MEC chairman and vice chairman for a token industry leading contract to bolster their organization efforts, even though it will cause ASA to get shut down. Duane left, but nothing has changed, another regional being thrown under the bus for the "greater good". Kind of like Mesaba almost was. I know you had a front row seat for that one, but wait, your pilot group benefited from it didn't they?

Yes, just keep up your cheerleading, PCL. You're next.

 

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Now ALPA is pushing the MEC chairman and vice chairman for a token industry leading contract to bolster their organization efforts, even though it will cause ASA to get shut down. Duane left, but nothing has changed, another regional being thrown under the bus for the "greater good". Kind of like Mesaba almost was. I know you had a front row seat for that one, but wait, your pilot group benefited from it didn't they?

Yes, just keep up your cheerleading, PCL. You're next.

WOW - You are right.

The timing could not be worse for a "Trophy Contract." Ask a Comair pilot, if you can find one.

ALPA would be better served by pragmatism and excellent scope.