Anyone uses Electronic jepps

[limodriver1]

Anyone uses Electronic Jepps!

If anyone uses them, is there anythink special to take in consideration when setting them up and updating, service, etc..

I have FAA approval for ours already!

 

[Capt1124]

I'm interested in the FAA approval. It seems to use them without paper backups, you have to have a certified mount and power supply in the cockpit, and I haven't seen one yet. NavAero told me some time ago they were soon going to have an approved mount but I never checked back with them.

How did you work this out?

 

[XTW]

We use them in our Citation fleet. I am only a user, not an administrator, so I can't lend any inside help on the certification. They are a breeze to use and we aren't required to have paper backups. Updates are done in about 10 minutes electronically, that's all terminal and enroute charts. We also have paper enroute charts in the airplane. From using both kinds of enroutes, I have to say the paper ones are more user friendly! The electronic ones can be a little cumbersome. It's much easier to open up a big piece of paper!

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[limodriver1]

that what I tought!

I guess it depends from your POI . We got nice guy , we were first required to carry paper backups for 6 month and after that we got it removed in our G's!

Units dont have to be mounted , but we have to have power outlet and printer available.

I think we will also keep paper enroute charts onboard. I agreed that it is easier sometimes to open good old paper one. With electronic checklist and, collins proline21 cockpit, there is lots of info going around all the time!

But nice to know that these are working ok, what brand yours are!

 

[Senior_Citizen]

You're talking about EFB's?

We have two tablet pc's loaded with the Jepp Charts (JeppView FliteDeck), the only different than a moving map GPS (besided the nav data) is the required update over internet or using a mailed CD. I don't manage directly the EFBs, our chief pilot has that responsability, our tablet pc's does'nt have a conected printer, also the only conection with the A/C is the power and a serial cable that interfaces it with the GNS530 GPS, the pc is used on the left leg (like a copy folder), our EFB is refered as Class 2 EFB, and is approved in our CJ2 (work done at the FBO who supplied the equipment, also the trining is very easy -elemenental-, w/o pain), our future G450 will have all the EFB data integrate into planeview, the FP maybe done at the cockpit or on a laptop and later uploaded (more less, GVflyer must know the detailed procedure).

 

[Bandit60]

I find that the EFB's are much more difficult to read. I always have to enlarge it to see the altitudes clearly and make out the numbers. (I have 20/15 vision) I make paper copies of my destinations and if something happends i can read right off the efb.

We now have live wsi weather now on the airplane. I will keep my paper charts and give me the live radar.

 

[AA717driver]

I agree with Bandit. Many of the complex arrival/departure charts are to difficult to see and must be zoomed to read.

We generally print charts before we leave and use the EFB and tablet PC as backups.TC

p.s.--How's it goin' XTW?

 

[501261]

Here's what we do. Print out the FlightDeck charts of your Departure-Destination-and Alternate. Lord knows there's never enough scrap paper in the cockpit to write down all the clearances, revised clearances, weather, FBO info, etc. so just write it on those printed charts and throw them away when your done.

We also carry NOS charts for emergency use domestically or the full Jepp ikit internationally. It's just a little piece of mind knowing that if we have to divert, a Low battery light on the EFB, or having to Control-Alt-Delete it, is not going to ruin our day.

 

[Senior_Citizen]

that's OK, also we print the Dep/Dest charts if are too complex, but all the flight manuals resides into the EFB, our EFB has 14" screens, if you don't have 20/20 vision, you must use corrective bi-focal glasses or burn your airman certificate.

We ussually flown with both Tablet pc's, but we use only one at time, the other is for backup, no battery charge whorries since both are continuously charged, the only book on board is the emergency procedures manual.

another bit abour EFB's CMC or Thales or other (I don't remember exactly who is) is preparing an EFB wit more than charts, manuals and Fligth planning software, also live video will be shown on its portatil device, they also announce an interface to an EVS sensor .... LOL just imagine, what next? an R2D2 Lords.

 

[XTW]

I agree with Bandit. Many of the complex arrival/departure charts are to difficult to see and must be zoomed to read.

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At your age, you probably carry a magnifying glass bling around your neck just to read a paper chart!

Call me.

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