Anybody know?

[Safetycheck]

NTSB Identification: CHI06LA058
Nonscheduled 14 CFR Part 135: Air Taxi & Commuter
Accident occurred Thursday, January 05, 2006 in Woodruff, WI
Aircraft: Cessna 560, registration: N391QS
Injuries: 7 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On January 5, 2006, about 0800 central standard time, a Cessna 560, N391QS, piloted by two airline transport pilots, sustained substantial damage when the right wing contacted runway 36 during a landing at the Lakeland Airport/Noble F. Lee Memorial Field (ARV), near Minocqua-Woodruff, Wisconsin. The airplane subsequently departed the runway and impacted a snow bank. The non-scheduled domestic passenger flight was operating under 14 Code of Federal Regulations part 135. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The flight was operating on an activated instrument flight rules flight plan. The pilot, co-pilot, and five passengers were uninjured. The flight originated from the Palwaukee Municipal Airport, near Wheeling, Illinois about 0723.

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What happened?

 

[WillFlyFoCookie]

Heard nothing

I live in Wisconsin and am originally from North/Central WI and haven't heard a thing about it. Can't say I've seen anything in the news or in the papers and I've looked.

What I do know is that airport has way to many names. When you fly in there and make radio calls your not even sure what to say. It has the names of 3 nearby cities and 2 different names for the field itself.

"Lakeland Airport/Noble F. Lee Field at Minocqua/Woodruff/Arbor Vitae traffic, this is Shuttle Endeavor 55 miles to the South at FL650 inbound on final for runway 36 at Lakeland Airport/Noble F. Lee Field, Minocqua/Woodruff/Arbor Vitae traffic." How did that sound?

 

[Safetycheck]

How does the union help

NTSB Identification: CHI06LA058
Nonscheduled 14 CFR Part 135: Air Taxi & Commuter
Accident occurred Thursday, January 05, 2006 in Woodruff, WI
Aircraft: Cessna 560, registration: N391QS
Injuries: 7 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On January 5, 2006, about 0800 central standard time, a Cessna 560, N391QS, piloted by two airline transport pilots, sustained substantial damage when the right wing contacted runway 36 during a landing at the Lakeland Airport/Noble F. Lee Memorial Field (ARV), near Minocqua-Woodruff, Wisconsin. The airplane subsequently departed the runway and impacted a snow bank. The non-scheduled domestic passenger flight was operating under 14 Code of Federal Regulations part 135. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The flight was operating on an activated instrument flight rules flight plan. The pilot, co-pilot, and five passengers were uninjured. The flight originated from the Palwaukee Municipal Airport, near Wheeling, Illinois about 0723.

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What happened?

How does having a union help in this situation.

 

[Diesel]

why you want to join the union?

 

[Guitar rocker]

This is old news.

 

[ashaman]

How does having a union help in this situation.

What kind of idiotic statement is that?

 

[Guitar rocker]

What kind of idiotic statement is that?

Yah, I couldnt agree more..........stupid statement.

 

[XPGuy]

How does having a union help in this situation.

The Union has a safety committee. Members assigned to this committee will work with accident investigators to help determine the cause of the accident. Any info learned about the accident will prompt the safety committee to make suggestions to the company and to the Union on any changes that may be necessary in safety policy, which could include crew rest, fatigue, bad weather minimums, or other policies that pilots must deal with when coming into bad-weather, small airports like we do every day.

Also, these pilots will have legal representation from the Union - no "dial-a-lawyer AOPA lawyer" who has a very limited scope of what they'll do - the IBT's lawyers will be with them throughout any legal processes... this includes should the FAA go after the pilots for any violations.

Not to mention, should the company want to take any disciplinary action on the pilots involved, they will have to go through the Union to get it done.


If you hurt an airplane, you better hope to be union.

 

[Guitar rocker]

The Union has a safety committee. Members assigned to this committee will work with accident investigators to help determine the cause of the accident. Any info learned about the accident will prompt the safety committee to make suggestions to the company and to the Union on any changes that may be necessary in safety policy, which could include crew rest, fatigue, bad weather minimums, or other policies that pilots must deal with when coming into bad-weather, small airports like we do every day.

Also, these pilots will have legal representation from the Union - no "dial-a-lawyer AOPA lawyer" who has a very limited scope of what they'll do - the IBT's lawyers will be with them throughout any legal processes... this includes should the FAA go after the pilots for any violations.

Not to mention, should the company want to take any disciplinary action on the pilots involved, they will have to go through the Union to get it done.


If you hurt an airplane, you better hope to be union.

Well said XPguy!

 

[netjetwife]

Yes--well done!

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